shotgun questions
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1. looking for rec.hunting FAQ for shotgun fit info…says file not found. 2. Trying to find out about rust in chamber problems (frequency, prevention, etc.) with a Browning BPS despite diligent cleaning & lubrication. I saw a few previous posts that confirm others have had the same problem. Others say no rust problems with Browning. 3. Read some posts from 96 & 97 about rust & customer service problems with Remington. Is anyone still having these type of problems with Remington? Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Regarding chamber rust in any shotgun. When shooting plastic shotgun shells some of the plastic can cling to the chamber walls and the rust occurs under the plastic or so it seems. There may be a release agent or mold lube that occurs in varying amounts on some shells, but whatever the reason the chamber should be scrubbed out at the end of the season or more often if foreign materials may have been introduced into the chamber. Chrome plating will solve this problem as I had this done to my skeet tubes years ago. Before that I used lacquer thinner the clean the plastic out of my guns. Regards, Frank Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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: 1. looking for rec.hunting FAQ for shotgun fit info…says file not : found. Try: http://www.recguns.com/ http://www.recguns.com/IIIE4a.html : 2. Trying to find out about rust in chamber problems (frequency, : prevention, etc.) with a Browning BPS despite diligent cleaning & : lubrication. I saw a few previous posts that confirm others have had the : same problem. Others say no rust problems with Browning. Welcome to the club. Buy a phosphore bronze chamber brush, brush the heck out of it (I use a drill) and keep oil soaked paper shells in the chamber. -Scot — Scot E. Heath, P.E. "Nothing beats turning clay to dust." Fort Collins, CO Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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: 1. looking for rec.hunting FAQ for shotgun fit info…says file not : found. Try: http://www.recguns.com/ http://www.recguns.com/IIIE4a.html : 2. Trying to find out about rust in chamber problems (frequency, : prevention, etc.) with a Browning BPS despite diligent cleaning & : lubrication. I saw a few previous posts that confirm others have had the : same problem. Others say no rust problems with Browning. Welcome to the club. Buy a phosphore bronze chamber brush, brush the heck out of it (I use a drill) and keep oil soaked paper shells in the chamber. -Scot — Scot E. Heath, P.E. "Nothing beats turning clay to dust." Fort Collins, CO Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> 2. Trying to find out about rust in chamber problems (frequency, > prevention, etc.) with a Browning BPS despite diligent cleaning & > lubrication. I saw a few previous posts that confirm others have had the > same problem. Others say no rust problems with Browning.
You should always shoot through a dry bore because of the excess fouling that oil in the bore causes, but I don’t see anything wrong with a little oil in the chamber. Some shotguns are just dirtier than others. I think it may be because of variations in the metal finish. I have an 870 that is essentially brand new, with only two or three hundred rounds run through it. It takes me an hour to get all the fouling out of the barrel. My old Ithaca 37 cleans up in 10 minutes or less. I suspect that another 2000 or 3000 rounds through the 870 will cure the problem as the bore polishes out. — English lesson for the week: effect and affect. Effect is active and affect is passive, just like effort and affable. (Little memnonic there) You effect change, which can affect your life. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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>When shooting plastic shotgun shells >some of the plastic can cling to the chamber walls and the rust occurs under >the plastic or so it seems.
What????? What the heck does plastic have to do with rust??? I have owned many shotguns, an old JC Higgins semi., a Remington 870 pump, a Beretta AL390, a Beretta 686 Onyx and NEVER has one EVER rusted on the inside of the barrel. And, I can assure you, I don’t clean any of them until I have fired at least 500 rounds through them. I do wipe them down if they are wet. The only guns I have ever seen rust that easily, inside and out, are the Brownings that were made in Japan in the late 80s and early 90s. A friend of mine had to get rid of his A500 because not only did it rust ridiculously easy, but it came apart a couple of times out in the field when firing heavy loads. They used an extremely cheap steel and even a finger print left on the barrel will leave rust on the Jap. made Brownings. I don’t recommend NOT cleaning your gun, but a standard Hoppes (or comparable) cleaning regimine will do the trick. Don’t buy a cheap gun and you shouldn’t have any problems. Plastic in the barrel, give me a break. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I think we must have been cleaning our guns too often then as most of us shoot Remington 1100 or Kreighoff guns and we do experience something akin to rust. I clean my gun every day after shooting and I seldom shoot more than 8 or 10 rounds (about 250 shells) and unless it is a 2 day match I will always clean it that night. Same with 28 and 410 guage. Regards, - Frank
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->When shooting plastic shotgun shells >some of the plastic can cling to the chamber walls and the rust occurs > under >the plastic or so it seems. > What????? What the heck does plastic have to do with rust??? I have owned > many shotguns, an old JC Higgins semi., a Remington 870 pump, a Beretta > AL390, a Beretta 686 Onyx and NEVER has one EVER rusted on the inside of the > barrel. And, I can assure you, I don’t clean any of them until I have fired > at least 500 rounds through them. I do wipe them down if they are wet. The > only guns I have ever seen rust that easily, inside and out, are the > Brownings that were made in Japan in the late 80s and early 90s. A friend > of mine had to get rid of his A500 because not only did it rust ridiculously > easy, but it came apart a couple of times out in the field when firing > heavy loads. They used an extremely cheap steel and even a finger print left > on the barrel will leave rust on the Jap. made Brownings. I don’t recommend > NOT cleaning your gun, but a standard Hoppes (or comparable) cleaning > regimine will do the trick. Don’t buy a cheap gun and you shouldn’t have > any problems. Plastic in the barrel, give me a break. > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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