Savage 110 30-06 bullet weight?
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Flip a coin on these two rounds for deer and hog. They both will do the job in like manner. I have hunted the 150 gr core-lokt for years without any fear of it not doing it’s job. I used 150gr because that was what my dad started me out on. I have moved on to handloads now, but there is a soft spot in my……enough of that. Depending on how big your deer are I would go with the 180 if I was going to start over. Scott Young – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.hunting Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:16 PM > I am wondering what is a good over all weight for whitetail and hogs? I have > hunted for years with a shotgun but this is my first rifle. I have been > using Remington Express Core-lokt 150 grain pointed soft point. I have > sighted the gun into a nice grouping at 100 yards. Anyone had any experience > with this ammo? All my shots will be within 100 yards or closer. Will it be > effective on both Whitetail and Hogs? Today I took the rifle out to the > range and after 2 sets of 3 with the 150 grain I switched to 180 grain > Express Core-lokt to see the difference. The 180 grain hit the target 3" > lower than the 150 grain. I am guessing because of the weight. > I was amazed in the change. I have tried different ammo in my Remington 870 > 12 gauge with just a little difference in pattern but I have learned there > is a big difference in a rifle ammo. Is the type of ammo allot like personal > rifle preference? I am getting very comfortable with the 150 grain Remington > ammo and I feel I know where the bullet if going to end up. > Thanks in advance for anyone’s assistance, > Robert Jackson > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Most .30 cals seem to like 165gr. bullets how ever not all co. offer them loaded. And yes most guns do have a prefference for a particular load. Unless you reload keep experimenting until you find a factory load thats "just right" for your particular gun. Then buy a case of that lot. Luck. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.hunting Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:16 PM > I am wondering what is a good over all weight for whitetail and hogs? I have > hunted for years with a shotgun but this is my first rifle. I have been > using Remington Express Core-lokt 150 grain pointed soft point. I have > sighted the gun into a nice grouping at 100 yards. Anyone had any experience > with this ammo? All my shots will be within 100 yards or closer. Will it be > effective on both Whitetail and Hogs? Today I took the rifle out to the > range and after 2 sets of 3 with the 150 grain I switched to 180 grain > Express Core-lokt to see the difference. The 180 grain hit the target 3" > lower than the 150 grain. I am guessing because of the weight. > I was amazed in the change. I have tried different ammo in my Remington 870 > 12 gauge with just a little difference in pattern but I have learned there > is a big difference in a rifle ammo. Is the type of ammo allot like personal > rifle preference? I am getting very comfortable with the 150 grain Remington > ammo and I feel I know where the bullet if going to end up. > Thanks in advance for anyone’s assistance, > Robert Jackson > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I got a gold crown grade 835 and i just got a ported slug barrel with a scope mount that im using this year for buck! why? because were im gonna hunt is in the thick brush…Todd Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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>I am wondering what is a good over all weight for whitetail and hogs? I have >hunted for years with a shotgun but this is my first rifle. I have been >using Remington Express Core-lokt 150 grain pointed soft point. I have >sighted the gun into a nice grouping at 100 yards. Anyone had any experience >with this ammo?
I shot my first deer last year with that exact round, from a 22" barrel. He was about 40 yards away, and I hit him perfectly behind the shoulder, perfectly at least for a quick kill. Anyway, he dropped instantly, and the bullet left a big ol’ exit hole, so I guess I have no complaints with the performance of the round/bullet. All that said, I’ve heard it argued pretty persuasively that 180’s are the better choice for 30-06. Better penetration, lower velocity which helps jellify less venison, and a ballistic path that is not significantly different than the 150 at practical hunting ranges. For deer the 150 Core-Lokt’s are fine, but for hogs I’d use 180-gn Partitions, which are a much tougher bullet that still expands nicely, and while you are at it, use them for deer too <g>! I’ve never hunted hogs, but that would be the thing to use… >effective on both Whitetail and Hogs? Today I took the rifle out to the >range and after 2 sets of 3 with the 150 grain I switched to 180 grain >Express Core-lokt to see the difference. The 180 grain hit the target 3" >lower than the 150 grain. I am guessing because of the weight.
Different brands of ammo, even if they are the SAME bullet weight, will usually group if different places… Enjoy your new rifle! -jeff Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Since we’re talking about slug guns, I have a question. I just got back from my first deer hunt in Indiana (I got a 6 point with my muzzleloader). I have a Mossburg 835 Ulti-Mag (turkey choke) that I might would like to get a rifled barrel for, if possible. Anyone have any suggestions? I’d like to shoot a shotgun up there next year. I would only need it for hunting up there. We have a very long season here in SC where we can use rifles. Thanks, Tommy Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> I am wondering what is a good over all weight for whitetail and hogs? I have > hunted for years with a shotgun but this is my first rifle. I have been > using Remington Express Core-lokt 150 grain pointed soft point. I have > sighted the gun into a nice grouping at 100 yards. Anyone had any
experience PERFECT… Stick with it… Won’t dissapoint you. Remmeber the KISS principle REM7600 Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I have one of the Mossberg 24 inch rifled barrels for my 835. I have been pleased with it and can get tight groups fro it. I got it directly from Mossberg, check out their web site: www.mossberg.com
> Since we’re talking about slug guns, I have a question. I just got back > from my first deer hunt in Indiana (I got a 6 point with my muzzleloader). > I have a Mossburg 835 Ulti-Mag (turkey choke) that I might would like to > get a rifled barrel for, if possible. Anyone have any suggestions? I’d like > to shoot a shotgun up there next year. I would only need it for hunting up > there. We have a very long season here in SC where we can use rifles. > Thanks, > Tommy > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I am wondering what is a good over all weight for whitetail and hogs? I have > hunted for years with a shotgun but this is my first rifle. I have been > using Remington Express Core-lokt 150 grain pointed soft point. I have > sighted the gun into a nice grouping at 100 yards. Anyone had any experience > with this ammo? All my shots will be within 100 yards or closer. Will it be > effective on both Whitetail and Hogs? Today I took the rifle out to the > range and after 2 sets of 3 with the 150 grain I switched to 180 grain > Express Core-lokt to see the difference. The 180 grain hit the target 3" > lower than the 150 grain. I am guessing because of the weight. > I was amazed in the change. I have tried different ammo in my Remington 870 > 12 gauge with just a little difference in pattern but I have learned there > is a big difference in a rifle ammo. Is the type of ammo allot like personal > rifle preference? I am getting very comfortable with the 150 grain Remington > ammo and I feel I know where the bullet if going to end up. > Thanks in advance for anyone’s assistance, > Robert Jackson
That’s fairly normal. Remember, you’re not shooting your shotgun at 100 yards. If you patterned it at 50, then 100, you’d find that the center of the pattern drops quite a bit. Shotguns are pretty sensitive to load changes, not so much in center of pattern as in pattern density and consistency. Each type of gun has it’s idiosynchracies. Anyway, a 3" change in point of impact isn’t unusual. Part of it can be change in bullet weight affecting velocity. It could be affected by the muzzle being not square … many rifles "flip" the bullets a little as they leave the muzzle, sometimes consistently enough that they still group extremely well, just not where you expect. Changes in the shape of the bullet can do the same thing. Example … I shot 50 grain Speer TNTs and 50 grain Nosler Ballistic tips out of my .220 Swift with the same max load of H380 to nearly the same velocity, both grouped very very well, but about 2-1/2 inches apart at 100 yards. The difference was the shape of the bullet and how they’d act as they left the muzzle. Personally, for a do-most-anything ‘06 factory load I have a great preference for 180s over 150s or any other weight. They shoot plenty flat enough for anything an ‘06 should be used for and hit harder at all ranges. Among cheap ‘06 ammo, I like the 180 grain CoreLokt Remington, among better grade ammo I like Federal premium with the Nosler 180 grain partition bullet. Considering your 100 yard maximum range, I’d probably go with 200 grain bullets instead; they still go plenty fast enough to expand, the trajectory is still string-flat within 100 yards, and they penetrate better than the light bullets can. More than likely, the lower velocity will also leave you with less meat damage. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I am wondering what is a good over all weight for whitetail and hogs? I have hunted for years with a shotgun but this is my first rifle. I have been using Remington Express Core-lokt 150 grain pointed soft point. I have sighted the gun into a nice grouping at 100 yards. Anyone had any experience with this ammo? All my shots will be within 100 yards or closer. Will it be effective on both Whitetail and Hogs? Today I took the rifle out to the range and after 2 sets of 3 with the 150 grain I switched to 180 grain Express Core-lokt to see the difference. The 180 grain hit the target 3" lower than the 150 grain. I am guessing because of the weight. I was amazed in the change. I have tried different ammo in my Remington 870 12 gauge with just a little difference in pattern but I have learned there is a big difference in a rifle ammo. Is the type of ammo allot like personal rifle preference? I am getting very comfortable with the 150 grain Remington ammo and I feel I know where the bullet if going to end up. Thanks in advance for anyone’s assistance, Robert Jackson Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
