Any opinions on ported choke tubes?
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The subject says it all. I’m really thinking of this more for clays than hunting, but I haven’t had much luck finding shotgunners in rec.guns, so I figured it wouldn’t hurt to try here. Before you buy. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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: The subject says it all. I’m really thinking of this more for clays : than hunting, but I haven’t had much luck finding shotgunners in : rec.guns, so I figured it wouldn’t hurt to try here. They’re noisy and a pain to clean. I’ve got ported guns and non-ported guns and have shot ported tubes and non-ported tubes. In my opinion, porting the first shot barrel for a pair does help some to keep the barrels from rising but other than that, I don’t have a use for it. -Scot — Scot E. Heath, P.E. "Nothing beats turning clay to dust." Fort Collins, CO Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Tom wrote >The subject says it all. I’m really thinking of this more for clays >than hunting, but I haven’t had much luck finding shotgunners in >rec.guns, so I figured it wouldn’t hurt to try here.
For what purpose, Tom? Wad-stripping? They seem to help some with that. Ported bbls help reduce muzzle-jump, esp. with big (hunting or live bird) loads, but ported chokes don’t do that. Cush Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Free opinions I’ve got. "Ported tubes" offer nothing- at least nobody has proved it yet. As for porting barrels (on shotguns) my free and unsolicited opinion is that all they get you is loud. With shotgun pressures of 10,000 psi at the breech, but only 1,000 psi or so at the muzzle . . . there isn’t much they can do. Rifle pressures are a whole different ball game . . . but in shot guns, well . . . little real world meaning to me. Even if they were effective, they should be placed where they can’t . . . as there is normally a nice wide rib (or another barrel) where they should be. Recoil reduction? Hardly. May even increase recoil slightly, if you remove enough metal to reduce weight. Also: a pain to clean, a nice entry point for dust / dirt, and an eye sore. The idea of reducing "muzzle flip" on a single barrel trap gun (BT100) is just plain . . . I think you know. Randy Wakeman Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Thanks to both for the info. That is the sort of thing I wanted to know. Why is wad-stripping advantageous? Or is it? I’m a real newbie. Thanks again tom Before you buy. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Tom asks: The subject says it all. I’m really thinking of this more for clays than hunting, but I haven’t had much luck finding shotgunners in rec.guns, so I figured it wouldn’t hurt to try here. I can’t speak as to the tubes. However, my Mossberg M835 Ulti-Mag has a ported barrel. I have shot it mostly with 1-1/8 oz. dove loads and, since the gun is kind of heavy anyway, I haven’t noticed significant reduction in recoil. In fact, about the only thing I have noticed is that powder residue collects on the outside the barrel where the holes are located. I guess this is to be expected. I am not saying that ported tubes or barrels don’t reduce recoil, apparently they do. All I am saying is that I haven’t noticed it on my gun. Dave LeGrande YOU’RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today – there’s no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Tom wrote >Thanks to both for the info. That is the sort of thing I wanted to >know. >Why is wad-stripping advantageous? Or is it? I’m a real newbie.
There is quite a bit of evidence indicating that, wonderful as our new wads are at sealing and at protecting the bore, they can overtake the shot column right in front of the muzzle, messing up what would have been a nice pattern. Some shooters advocate taking some step to "grab" the wad at the muzzle and help it to open up. Once it opens up, the wind resistance prevents it from catching the shot column. Ported chokes are thought by some to be a good way to achieve this. Cush Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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>Why is wad-stripping advantageous?
The theory is that your little light plastic wad crash into the lead shot cloud mass- and ruin (subjective) your pretty pattern. There have been a plethora of wad-slowing chokes on the market, yet a dearth of hard evidence (as in before / after patterns) to show that it makes any difference at all- or, even that it doesn’t hurt performance – - – Randy Wakeman Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I shoot sporting clays and find that; as most say, they are loud, they do help you get on the second bird faster, and if you are doing it to reduce recoil go to lighter loads or a powder with less psi. One gun I have was not ported when I bought it and after a few sessions with it I did have it ported and the recoil didn’t seem to change but the muzzle jump did. Free Information Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I’m against ‘em. When you try to get tricky, things ball-up. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
