30.06 and 30.30 interchangeable?
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Hi Dave, You were saying: > I don’t even think the bullets are the same. Memory serves me that the > 30/30 is .303 and the 30/06 is .308. Of course, my memory bank might > contain fragmented files.
Couldn’t remember myself, so I looked it up. Turns out that the bullets for both calibers are .308. (Rounds still not interchangeable!) –gordon
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No. The bullet may be the same, but the shell is different!! 30-30 bullets are usually flat to be loaded in a tubular mag. found in most common 30-30 guns. (win., marlin, etc) 357 ammo cannot be used in a .38 special, but .38s can be used in .357. Joe
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The Raiden wrote * I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the shells of a * 30.06 and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference? My smartass answer is that you can only do this once. The real answer is Why: Vastly different pressure levels Vastly different case lengths Vastly different case diameters, both body and head (Actually, these last two should prevent you from chambering one cartridge in a firearm made for the other, and if it will chamber, then you have an even bigger problem) .30-’06 is rimless, .30-30 is rimmed There are very few examples where one cartridge will work properly in a firearm chambered for another cartridge, and except for "improved" wildcats, all of these that I can think of are relatively straight, non-bottlenecked cases. The only safe thing is to only use ammunition with a headstamp that exactly matches what is marked on the firearm. el coyotero
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> I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the shells of a > 30.06 >and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference? I know that you can >interchange shells between a .38 cal and a .357 magnum.
The .30-06 and the .30-30 are very different cases and not in any way interchangeable. They differ in length, the .30-06 being longer. Also the .30-06 is a rimless case while the .30-30 is rimmed. A .30-06 round will not chamber in a .30-30 rifle, and vice-versa. The .30-06 is much the more powerful cartridge of the two. In the case of the .38 and .357 – you can use .38Sp rounds in a .357 because the .38 is shorter, by about 1/10 of an inch, other exterior dimensions being the same. Interior dimensions may vary because the 357 could have a thicker web. The .357 won’t chamber in a .38Sp pistol though people have managed to fit them in old .38Sp revolvers with badly worn chambers – with disastrous results! HTH Steve ***** Steve Catt, Professional Development Unit, Lancaster University, UK
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The shells, NO. The bullet is the same diameter but the shell casings themselves NO. The .30-30 dates back to black powder days. .30 caliber bullet 30 grains of blackpowder. The .30-06 is a shell designated by the US military for the Springfield 1903. In 1906 the shell casing was redesigned hence .30-06. The .30-06 will not chamber in a .30-30 and if you chamber a .30-30 in a .30-06, disatorous (sp) consequences will can result (the gun blows up in your face). Brian Liedtke – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the shells of a > 30.06 > and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference? I know that you can > interchange shells between a .38 cal and a .357 magnum. Also, does anyone > know a dealer in the Grand Rapids, MI or Battle Creak, MI area that sells > rifles that fire .223 ammo or sell AR-15’s? Basically I am looking for a .223 > semi-auto that I can use for self protection and I know that a .223 is VERY > deadly at close range because I used them in the Army so I know what they can > do. > Can anyone help me? Thanks.
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> I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the shells of a > 30.06 >and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference? I know that you can >interchange shells between a .38 cal and a .357 magnum. Also, does anyone >know a dealer in the Grand Rapids, MI or Battle Creak, MI area that sells >rifles that fire .223 ammo or sell AR-15’s? Basically I am looking for a .223 >semi-auto that I can use for self protection and I know that a .223 is VERY >deadly at close range because I used them in the Army so I know what they can >do. > Can anyone help me? Thanks.
Not a chance. 30-30 is a rimed case. 30-06 is a semi. 30-06 is much longer and other deminsions and pressures would make it impossible. Also why would you use a 223 for self protection? A 12 guage shot gun would be worth considering if your opposed to pistols/revolvers
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> I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the shells of a > 30.06 > and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference?
Huge. If you managed to jam a 30-06 bullet into the chamber of a 303, and dropped the pin on it, you’d be wearing the bolt… The other way, the rim on the 303 bullet would catch on the chamber wall of the 30-06 and the bolt wouldn’t close. If it did go off, you’d find yourself on the business end of a 30, 000 psi brass hand grenade… I know that you can > interchange shells between a .38 cal and a .357 magnum.
In one direction only. If you put a 357 into a 38, well, kiss that cylinder goodbye. And probably a good chunk of your hand… Basically I am looking for a .223 > semi-auto that I can use for self protection and I know that a .223 is VERY > deadly at close range because I used them in the Army so I know what they can > do. > I’d go with a nice imtimidating pump twelve. Black with a pistol grip.
Something way intimidating about that big tunnel ‘o death. I was under the impression that the 5.56×45mm Nato was designed for just the opposite reason. To be less lethal than the 308 or the 30-06. Agreed, I wouldn’t want to be hit by one; those little ’22’s’ zip around all over once they get in you some times, but not too big on stopping power. Try introducing the bad guys to Mr. Twelve and a nice load of alternating buckshot slug buckshot… > Can anyone help me? Thanks.
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> I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the shells of a > 30.06 >and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference? I know that you can >interchange shells between a .38 cal and a .357 magnum. Also, does anyone >know a dealer in the Grand Rapids, MI or Battle Creak, MI area that sells >rifles that fire .223 ammo or sell AR-15’s? Basically I am looking for a .223 >semi-auto that I can use for self protection and I know that a .223 is VERY >deadly at close range because I used them in the Army so I know what they can >do. > Can anyone help me? Thanks.
Hello, In answer to your first question on interchanging 30-06 and 30-30 ammo….Do not even attempt this, they are not interchangeable and even if you could get the cartridge in the chamber it could do serious damage to the firearm a possibly kill you. So don’t even try it. As for you looking for a .223 or AR-15 for "self protection" this is a poor choice for a self defense firearm. A rifle is very clumsy in a self defense situation and has a greater chance of penetrating a wall or other object and hitting someone or something you had not intended on shooting. A better choice would be a handgun in any caliber from 38 special to .45acp (I don’t recommend a .357 or 44 mag for the same reason, over penetration.) or if you need a long gun get a 12 gauge shotgun with some #4 shot. Any would make a better choice for a self defense weapon. Hope this helps, Hunter Hunting for Life aka on the Ray Trautman Information Superhighway
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> I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the shells > and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference? I know that you > interchange shells between a .38 cal and a .357 magnum. Also, does > know a dealer in the Grand Rapids, MI or Battle Creak, MI area that sells > rifles that fire .223 ammo or sell AR-15’s? Basically I am looking for a > semi-auto that I can use for self protection and I know that a .223 is > deadly at close range because I used them in the Army so I know what they
Hmmm… First 30/06 and 30/30 interchangability. NNONONONONONONONONONO. You can put .38 spec shells in a .357, but not vice versa. .223 a VERY deadly round? Uh..not. It’s adequate, but designed to wound, not to kill. it also has the added benefit of not much recoil and allowing men to carry more ammo that a full battle rifle. As for deadly, point my back to my 30/06 or .308. Rob
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writes: >No. >The bullet may be the same, but the shell is different!!
I don’t even think the bullets are the same. Memory serves me that the 30/30 is .303 and the 30/06 is .308. Of course, my memory bank might contain fragmented files. Dave Kanger
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> > I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the > 30.06 > and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference? I know that you can > interchange shells between a .38 cal and a .357 magnum.
Other posters have answered this one so I’ll just add emphasis: Don’t even think of trying it unless your life insurance is paid up in full! Also, does anyone > know a dealer in the Grand Rapids, MI or Battle Creak, MI area that sells > rifles that fire .223 ammo or sell AR-15’s? Basically I am looking > semi-auto that I can use for self protection and I know that a .223 is VERY > deadly at close range because I used them in the Army so I know what > do.
A .223 is a perfectly appropriate self defense weapon under one circumstance only. If you absolutely do not have a single neighbor living within two miles of your residence then go for it. If there is likely to be a friendly human being within that radius, stick with a shotgun. Before you buy anything though, from the questions you ask I strongly suggest you get some training and knowledge before you take the plunge. There’s nothing at all wrong with being uninformed, but in the arena of firearms, ignorance and action can have horrendous physical and legal consequences. Check your yellow pages under Rifle and Pistol Ranges, Shooting Ranges, Gun Safety and Marksmanship Instruction, or Gun Shops. At any of them you will likely find friendly, helpful folks who can aid you in making informed decisions before you purchase as well as help you aquire all the legal and practical information you should possess BEFORE you prepare to have lethal force at your fingertips. After all, your obligation in protecting yourself also extends to not harming innocent others. -D
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I was curious of this. Is it possible to interchange the shells of a 30.06 and a 30.30 rifle or is there too much of a difference? I know that you can interchange shells between a .38 cal and a .357 magnum. Also, does anyone know a dealer in the Grand Rapids, MI or Battle Creak, MI area that sells rifles that fire .223 ammo or sell AR-15’s? Basically I am looking for a .223 semi-auto that I can use for self protection and I know that a .223 is VERY deadly at close range because I used them in the Army so I know what they can do. Can anyone help me? Thanks.
