.243 recoil

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I have a Remington Model 7 in a 7-08 cal.  Change the recoil pad I did and it made a noticable inprovement in felt recoil. The one that comes on the synthetic stock looks good but has almost no give to it. Best Regards Sam Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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>I am thinking aobut buying a .243 for my son. I have never shot one and was >wandering how the recoil was compared to a .308? Any help would be >appreciated.

My daughter had no problem with the recoil of a .243 when she was 15 y.o. and weighed a little over 100 lbs. At the target range, or after she killed her first button buck. I just gave her the rifle last week for her 18th birthday…. Happy Hunting Warren Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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> I am thinking aobut buying a .243 for my son. I have never shot one and was > wandering how the recoil was compared to a .308? Any help would be > appreciated.

The .243 is not "recoil free" but it’s about as close as you’ll get with a deer worthy cartridge.  The .250 Savage is another light kicker.  The .260 Remington in the full size rifle ought to be pretty mellow as well; likewise the 6.5×55 in a Winchester or Ruger. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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>    Everything else being equal about 1/2 as much.

The recoil on a 243 is negligible in a normal sized rifle. >If you reload might I >suggest Nosler 95 gr Partitions for game, They also make 95 gr Ballistic >tips ( cheaper for practice )so you only have to work up one load.

I’ve found the 95grn Ballistic Tips at 2900fps to be highly effective on roe deer, foxes, and pronghorn antelope.  But they are not for use on heavy bone, broadside on heart/lung shots are optimum. –Jonathan Jonathan Spencer — forensic firearms examiner Keith Borer Consultants Mountjoy Research Centre, Durham, England, DH1 3UR tel: +44 191 386 6107   fax: +44 191 383 0686 Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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I have both a .243 and a .308 in the Ruger M 77.  Recoil of the .243 is about 40% less, given rifles of equal weight.  My .243 is an ultralight, and recoil is still negligible, about 14 ft.  pds.  with hunting loads, as compared to about 20 ft.  lbs with the .308.  Which (.308) really is about equal to a 20ga shotgun with a magnum load. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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> I am thinking aobut buying a .243 for my son. I have never shot one and > wandering how the recoil was compared to a .308? Any help would be > appreciated.

Depends on alot of things, mostly the weight of the gun and the ability of the shooter to deal with perceived recoil effects.  I have shot a Winchester .243 Child and Youth Rranger (maybe 7 lbs total) and found recoil very manageable.  My wife’s 6.5 lb 7-08 in a Remington Model 7 is a bit of a handful, however.  If your son is thinking about hunting larger deer, try a walnut stocked 7-08 and light loads to work up his ability to deal with the recoil, its a lot better round for all around use.  Remember, the bigger an issue you make of recoil, the bigger an issue it’ll be to your kid.  Shooter’s position also affects perceived recoil, if the shooter is more erect when firing, the body will give more naturally and absorb recoil better than in a bent over the rifle position more typical to benchrest shooting.  Good luck, and feel free to write if I can help any further. — DAVE Manfred and Remy (GSPs) Mauser (GSD) Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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Bought my son one a few years ago and he is now 13. He has no trouble with the recoil of the Remington Seven in .243. In fact he enjoys shooting it at the range. He hasn’t taken any game with it as yet but here in Louisiana a large buck was taken at around 300 yards with this cartridge. John Watson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am thinking aobut buying a .243 for my son. I have never shot one and was >wandering how the recoil was compared to a .308? Any help would be >appreciated. >My daughter had no problem with the recoil of a .243 when she was 15 y.o. and >weighed a little over 100 lbs. At the target range, or after she killed her >first button buck. >I just gave her the rifle last week for her 18th birthday…. >Happy Hunting >Warren >Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: >        http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ >To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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>    Everything else being equal about 1/2 as much. If you reload might I >suggest Nosler 95 gr Partitions for game, They also make 95 gr Ballistic >tips ( cheaper for practice )so you only have to work up one load. >    With a kid you have to balance weight and recoil, depends on the >kid. Keep the target practice distance short, loads reduced, and the >bulls eyes large, and make triple sure that the gun fits even if it >means buying another stock later.

I’ve got a Rem Seven in .243 Win, and I suppose this would be a nice gun for a young shooter… —              Jonis             —- —   http://home.sol.no/~sbragsta/ —- —    Member of The Huntingtrail  —- Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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    Everything else being equal about 1/2 as much. If you reload might I suggest Nosler 95 gr Partitions for game, They also make 95 gr Ballistic tips ( cheaper for practice )so you only have to work up one load.     With a kid you have to balance weight and recoil, depends on the kid. Keep the target practice distance short, loads reduced, and the bulls eyes large, and make triple sure that the gun fits even if it means buying another stock later. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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I am thinking aobut buying a .243 for my son. I have never shot one and was wandering how the recoil was compared to a .308? Any help would be appreciated. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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Chris, If your finding the .243 has almost as much kick as your .270 then one of two factors falls into play here: You have a very poor fitting .243 (recoil? what recoil?) Or your .270 fits VERY well!:-) My $.02 worth! Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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>Chris, >If your finding the .243 has almost as much kick as your .270 then one >of two factors falls into play here: >You have a very poor fitting .243 (recoil? what recoil?) >Or your .270 fits VERY well!:-)

Or something like that. In the last two years i have acquired a couple of .243’s for the purpose of starting my kids on them. I have long denigrated that caliber, but umpteen bazillion recoil-shy-shooters can’t be entirely wrong…I reasoned. This I have found: the .243 is very mild recoil-wise with the 70 grain bullets. If’n I were a devious fellow, I would let my little charges practice only with the 70 grainers…then I’d secretly sneak off  before the sesaon opened and make sure the gun was sighted in for a 100 grain premium bullet. I would have the kids hunt with the 100 grain bullets. I promise you they will not notice the recoil in the field. joe   "The doorway to all freedoms is framed with muskets"     –from an old NRA ‘junk mail’ solicitation– Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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I did not see the original post but it appears the problem is too much recoil in .243?  Try different ammo.  We started out with 100gr Remmington (which grouped really well) but some boxes did  *seem* to have more recoil. Tried some Winchester (I think), same weight, but less felt recoil.  Now I handload and can make it whatever I want…..hehehehe Bill W. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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>Or something like that. In the last two years i have acquired a couple >of .243’s for the purpose of starting my kids on them. I have long >denigrated that caliber, but umpteen bazillion recoil-shy-shooters >can’t be entirely wrong..

I was like you!  My daughter has maybe then wimpiest shoulder in the country, but loves to shoot!  She is deadly with a .22.  I wanted her to use a bit more gun, but an old Rem 788 in .243 was what she shot the best.  My wife sewed an PAST recoil pad in her hunting vest.  Loaded the gun with Fed Premium 100gr. Backed her up ‘cuz I KNEW she was undergunned!  2 deer, 2 antelope 4 shots(all in the right place) and they fell over!  Being a proud dad, I got lots of pics….I still think she is undergunned, but shot placement is a whole lot more critical than bullet size. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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.snip. >  but shot placement is a whole lot > more critical than bullet size.

I have to disagree; maybe it’s a matter of semantics, but without BOTH you fail, and it doesn’t really matter which you don’t have enough of.   I’ve seen quite a few perfectly placed shots fail because the bullet didn’t reach vital organs or didn’t perform when it got there.   On the other hand, I’ve certainly seen plenty o’ "power" wasted by an ill-placed shot.   Find a balance where you have enough of both and you’ll have meat in the freezer. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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>.snip. >  but shot placement is a whole lot > more critical than bullet size. >I have to disagree; maybe it’s a matter of semantics, but without BOTH you fail, >and it doesn’t really matter which you don’t have enough of.   I’ve seen quite a >few perfectly placed shots fail because the bullet didn’t reach vital organs or >didn’t perform when it got there.   On the other hand, I’ve certainly seen plenty >o’ "power" wasted by an ill-placed shot.   Find a balance where you have enough of >both and you’ll have meat in the freezer.

Oh, come on now, Tom.  Not every one, need to shot a .500 Nitro Express. IMHO, it’s better to use a round you can shoot well.  Remember,  Bell and all those elephants. When the concentration camp guard smiles — he’s still a concentration camp guard.              William Wilde Curringer, _Unfinished Memoirs_                          L. Neil Smith, Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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