Winchester model 670
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Looking at buying a model 670 Winchester 308 bolt action with bushnell 4 power 32 mm scope any idea’s what it is worth. Riffle is in excellent condition. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> Looking at buying a model 670 Winchester 308 bolt action with bushnell 4 > power 32 mm scope any idea’s what it is worth.
A $200-$300 bill should be right without the scope, I would not assign too much value to the scope, unless you like it enough to have bought it new. Regards, Gary 10MM Info site http://www.wizkidscomp.com/10mm Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Some comments on the Model 670. I bought one new back about 1979, probably one of the last ones sold new as the model had been out of production for about five years. As you probably know, 670s were Winchester’s attempt at an economy-grade rifle to be sold in the sporting goods departments of Montgomery Ward, Sears, Western Auto, K-Mart, etc, and there were a lot of cost-saving ideas in the design and manufacture. First there’s the beechwood stock that was stained dark – a terrible idea because scratches quickly cut through the stain and are highly obvious and unsightly. I’m told Sako used beechwood on some of their stocks; I don’t know whether there is some other finish that works, but I definitely recommend (1)not paying a lot for a 670 with an unscratched stock because your own use of it will immediately start to show, and (2)unless you plan to leave it in the gun case indefinitely, expect to re-stock it or else have a bad-looking stock. Second, the finish isn’t very good. This was a production short cut – the metal is left somewhat rough rather than polished for a glossy effect. I generally don’t mind the dull, matte-like effect in a hunting rifle, but I do believe the more porous metal surface picks up casual surface rust a lot easier than a finely polished gun would. Third, the magazine is a blind box with no floor plate which means that emptying the magazine requires chambering and ejecting each cartridge. A nuisance. Finally, there’s the fact that because it’s a model 670, it probably will never be worth a lot of money even if you give it a premium polish and have it re-stocked in exhibition grade Circassian walnut. Having said all that, let me tell why’d I’d buy any 670 I can find for $250 or less: These hummers can SHOOT! And that, by the way, is something some of us like to see a rifle do well when it isn’t busy looking pretty. Inch and a quarter groups were never much of a problem with several of the factory loads, and the old factory Winchester Silvertips in 150 grain used to flirt with minute of angle. And that’s BEFORE I fiberglass-bedded the action in a walnut stock from Fajen! Right now I’m working up loads for it. Just before deer season 165 gr. Sierra hollowpoint boattails pushed by 47.9 grains of IMR 4064 gave me a three-shot group of 2.5 inches at 300 yards (the only group I shot at that range,) so I have some hope that great things might be in store for this little economy grade, 22-inch sporter. For a couple a years I also owned a .243 that I paid $315 for in perfect condition. I bought it for my 13=year old to hunt deer with. It was also a one and a quarter inch grouper with factory ammo. Two years later it shot just as accurately but was showing a lot of scratches, so I sold it for a lot less than I had paid. Like I said earlier: Don’t pay for pristine appearance in this rifle. It won’t stay that way long. Buy if it’s some under $300. And expect to re-stock it and to end up with a gun that’s primarily a shooter but a darned good one. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
