Weatherby Accumark
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Does anybody have any experience with Weatherby’s new Accumark? Or do you know the groupings for it in 7mm Remington? I’ve read that with a 300 Weatherby the 3-shot group is 3/4", but I dont know what it is with the 7mm Remington.
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>Does anybody have any experience with Weatherby’s new Accumark? Or do >you know the groupings for it in 7mm Remington?
Bob: I too was looking at the accumark and was comparing it to the Remington 700 Sendero. (Still haven’t got either one. I debating on having my gunsmith work on my own action but that gets expensive quick) If you are getting the 7 mm REMINGTON Mag and not the 7mm Weatherby Magnum, you might want to take a closer look at the 700. The difference could probably get you a scope. 1. Both are on the same H-S Precision Stock with the solid aluminum bedding. (A great stock for a factory rifle!!) 2. Both have a heavy fluted S/S Barrel. (I can’t recall which contour) 3. Both have great actions (I prefer the 700, but its just my opinion) All in all, the two forementioned rifles are very similar, except in price. I personally shot the accumark but it was the 300 Wthby mag. I was expecting a little less recoil from such a heavy gun, but it belts you pretty good. Also, if accuracy is your main concern from a factory rifle, take a look at an A bolt. Iv’e shot my buddy’s A bolt s/s BOSS in a 7 Rem Mag several times and that gun is very mild. Too bad its so ugly and loud. But thats the trade off. If you have the time and money (for ammo) this rifle SUPPOSEDLY extremely accurate. Depending on the type of hunting you do, the accumark/sendero is pretty damn heavy. If you going to do a lot of walking, you also might want to consider a lighter rifle. stuart imokawa
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> Does anybody have any experience with Weatherby’s new Accumark? Or do > you know the groupings for it in 7mm Remington? I’ve read that with a > 300 Weatherby the 3-shot group is 3/4", but I dont know what it is with > the 7mm Remington.
I looked very seroiusly at obtaining one in 270 wby or 300 win mag in the spring when they were hitting the WBY dealers. I talked with one of the better WBY dealers who is in NJ and is an exclusive for them (he gets the good stuff no doubt). He was saying that WBY is having problems with the rifle some shoot some don’t. And it is not limited to the accumark but all of the WBY’s. He was saying that at this time to stay away from the american made WBY’s until they work this out. That’s why the Jap models have skyrocketed in price. If you want something nice, try finding an WBY Alaskan Stainless. They had mcmillian stocks and are jap modles but evryone I ran across shot like the dickens. For what its worth though I have just got done having a 264 win mag built that is just like the WBY using a rem 700 action in stainless conveerted to Single Shot, with a #5 Rocky Mtn Barrel Works Barrel, Fluted, 26" set up for a Nosler 125 gr partition with a Lone Wolf Glue-in fiberglass Calefornian stock for under 600 bucks and is put together a heck of a lot better than anything from WBY, Rem, Win, or Sav. Let me know, Doug
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> >I know they guarantee 1.5 MOA which seems OK for an out of the box >rifle but what about the Accumark they’ve got out. Does anyone know >if these are in the 1/2 – 3/4 MOA arena like the M700 Senderos and >M70 Larados they compete with? > My 340WBY stainless will do better than 1" when I do my bit. I have seen > another 300WBY and a 270WBY group into 1/2 and 3/4" at 100yds. > But realistically this accuracy level is far from bench-rest standard. > For Serious long range Match work neither the Sendero, Larado’s Sako’s > LRHR are serious contenders (The Weatherby certainly is not).
You have to remember what the Weatherby is for and why it was made to appreciate the cartridges. In a standard caliber they are not any worse than any other rifle. As far as accuracy improvements, my dad bought an Accumark in 300 Weatherby. After the usual, trigger job, action blue printing and a new barrel in the same profile, I took his brass and neck turned it all down and had the chamber head space, throat, and seating set to match. Basically taking out the free bore. Although he doesn’t get the blistering velocities he does have a .6 moa rifle all day any condition with Trophy Bonded Bear Claw 165 grain bullets 180 grain bullets should do better. That was based on the 10 – 5 shot groups fired after barrel break-in. With that cartridge that is good.
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The Weatherby formula of long freebores and massive amounts of powder makes me wonder how much accuracy you trade off in the process. I haven’t heard of the Weatherbys competing in long range matches but maybe I’m just out of touch 
I know they guarantee 1.5 MOA which seems OK for an out of the box rifle but what about the Accumark they’ve got out. Does anyone know if these are in the 1/2 – 3/4 MOA arena like the the M700 Senderos and M70 Larados they compete with? Scott
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>The Weatherby formula of long freebores and massive amounts of >powder makes me wonder how much accuracy you trade off in the process. >I haven’t heard of the Weatherbys competing in long range matches but >maybe I’m just out of touch
The Weatherby Rifle (Accumark) and the Weatherby Cartridges were never designed to be benchrest rifles/catridges. They are built as simonpure hunting rifles with added performance (The added powder and enlarged free-bore you speak of.). As a long range match rifle I think that most of the Weatherby Arms are too light overall and most have barrels that are too light for best accuracy with long strings of shots. I think that you trade off some flexibility with having a long free-bore. Your rifle tends to be more finniky with the bullet choice and seating depth. Where I have found that Rifles with Normal leads will usually show a less "extreme" preference to a particular bullet. There are a few Marochists that are shooting the new .30/378WBY in 1000yd matches here (doing quite well to). >I know they guarantee 1.5 MOA which seems OK for an out of the box >rifle but what about the Accumark they’ve got out. Does anyone know >if these are in the 1/2 – 3/4 MOA arena like the the M700 Senderos and >M70 Larados they compete with?
My 340WBY stainless will do better than 1" when I do my bit. I have seen another 300WBY and a 270WBY group into 1/2 and 3/4" at 100yds. But realistically this accuracy level is far from bench-rest standard. For Serious long range Match work neither the Sendero, Larado’s Sako’s LRHR are serious contenders (The Weatherby certainly is not). The only real contender, so called "out of the box" is the 40XB when chambered in calibers like 30/06 300MAG etc. They have to shoot inside 1/2" before they leave (depending on caliber). This is the Bare minimum for a serious long range outfit. Mark.. — –Mark Przybylowski
