The Lost World
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Just curious to see if anyone else had the same reaction as I did to Spielberg’s depiction of hunters in the new Jurassic Park movie. Even though the PH that lead the "bad guys" was probably the most interesting character in the film, I felt the anti-hunting message was somewhat heavy-handed. Trying to paint a Greenpeace eco-terrorist as a hero and making cracks about man being the only creature who hunts when he’s not hungry wore a little thin with me. I just wondered if I was over-reacting, as some of my non-hunter associates sometimes accuse me of doing (I prefer to think of it as being passionate!!!:-{). Thoughts? Questions? Opposing views? I look forward to your responses. Working For the Wild Dinos…er, Turkey! Ray
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> Just curious to see if anyone else had the same reaction as I did to > Spielberg’s depiction of hunters in the new Jurassic Park movie. Even though > the PH that lead the "bad guys" was probably the most interesting character > in the film, I felt the anti-hunting message was somewhat heavy-handed. > Trying to paint a Greenpeace eco-terrorist as a hero and making cracks about > man being the only creature who hunts when he’s not hungry wore a little thin > with me. I just wondered if I was over-reacting, as some of my non-hunter > associates sometimes accuse me of doing (I prefer to think of it as being > passionate!!!:-{).
I haven’t seen it yet, and now I’m not sure I want to. It figures. We hunters are such bastards that now we’ll even be responsible for quashing the second coming of the dinosaurs. I doubt you were over-reacting. My wife and friends get mad when I throw up my hands and am willing to trash an otherwise good show for even one small anti-hunting remark. They think I’m a nasty father because I won’t let my kids watch Bambi without a chaperone. Tom Pink E.U.P. Duck Camp
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> Just curious to see if anyone else had the same reaction as I did to > Spielberg’s depiction of hunters in the new Jurassic Park movie. Even though > the PH that lead the "bad guys" was probably the most interesting character > in the film, I felt the anti-hunting message was somewhat heavy-handed. > Trying to paint a Greenpeace eco-terrorist as a hero and making cracks about > man being the only creature who hunts when he’s not hungry wore a little thin > with me. I just wondered if I was over-reacting, as some of my non-hunter > associates sometimes accuse me of doing (I prefer to think of it as being > passionate!!!:-{).
Not only was the movie so politically correct it nearly made me puke, the story line was stupid! I mean it was so stupid that I was making smart ass comments all through the movie and not only did no one tell me to shut up, they laughed along with me. I mean with the right commentary it makes a great comedy. I don’t just mean the part of them carrying an injured baby T.Rex around and the animal not tearing them to pieces. Or even the Greenpeace guy bringing a bullet puller along to render the hunter’s rifle useless (I mean what hunter brings more than two rounds when after prehistoric monsters). The parts that got me is that it was just an old rerun of a 1000 other movies starting with King Kong. The trailer hanging over the cliff was supposed to be spine tingling. I went out a got pop corn and when I got back the damn thing was still hanging over the cliff and the people were still screaming – and you still knew that none would be killed since they were the stars! I mean boring! Save your time and money unless you like special effects. That is all the movie is. Oh and the lawyer gets eaten in the end! I bet you would have never guessed that!
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>Just curious to see if anyone else had the same reaction as I did to >Spielberg’s depiction of hunters in the new Jurassic Park movie. Even >though the PH that lead the "bad guys" was probably the most interesting >character in the film, I felt the anti-hunting message was somewhat >heavy-handed.
I agree completely. Now we can only use tranquilizer guns to kill even vicious, man-eating anachronisms.
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>the animal not tearing them to pieces. Or even the Greenpeace guy bringing a >bullet puller along to render the hunter’s rifle useless (I mean what hunter >brings more than two rounds when after prehistoric monsters).
Yes the Greenpeace guy had a bullet puller, But he also must have had a Decapping tool, as the thing was "dry" fired at that T-rex. Those greenies (aka what comes out of ones nose) are getting more creative. 
Hmm wonder if he carries a press? Or just a Berdan decapper for all jobs? Mark.. — –Mark Przybylowski
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> I haven’t seen it yet, and now I’m not sure I want to. It figures. We > hunters are such bastards that now we’ll even be responsible for quashing > the second coming of the dinosaurs. > I doubt you were over-reacting. My wife and friends get mad when I throw up > my hands and am willing to trash an otherwise good show for even one small > anti-hunting remark. They think I’m a nasty father because I won’t let my > kids watch Bambi without a chaperone. > Tom Pink > E.U.P. Duck Camp
And I thought it was just me who picked up all the subtle anti messages and complained about them. My kids do not watch Captain Planet due to biased content. What other shows out there do we boycott? Lost World was VERY anti-hunter, but who did they turn to to save their assets? The big bad hunter. He saved the day, and had a backup gun. What kind of gun was that? 10ga with slugs? — …insert catchy sig file here … Mark Moore
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Personally, I feel "The Lost World" is too detacted from reality to have a significant impact on 99% of the population’s attitude towards hunting. Personally, I suggest many people, in similiar situations, would have felt underarmed with less than a 25mm Bradley fighting vehicle, or put another way, the only good dinosaur is a dead dinosaur (when it threatens your life)!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Just curious to see if anyone else had the same reaction as I did to > Spielberg’s depiction of hunters in the new Jurassic Park movie. Even though > the PH that lead the "bad guys" was probably the most interesting character > in the film, I felt the anti-hunting message was somewhat heavy-handed. > Trying to paint a Greenpeace eco-terrorist as a hero and making cracks about > man being the only creature who hunts when he’s not hungry wore a little thin > with me. I just wondered if I was over-reacting, as some of my non-hunter > associates sometimes accuse me of doing (I prefer to think of it as being > passionate!!!:-{). > Thoughts? Questions? Opposing views? I look forward to your responses. > Working For the Wild Dinos…er, Turkey! > Ray
You said in the movie a character said that only man hunts when he isn’t hungry? The screenwriter needs to do a little homework. About ten years ago, somebody wrote a book (anybody remember the title?) about how MAN IS NOT THE ONLY ANIMAL THAT KILLS WITHOUT NEEDING TO. In it were passages about lions murdering each other in cold blood, badgers going into hen houses, killing every chicken, and leaving without eating anything, and on it went. Anybody remember that book? Wish I could quote it. James Vodar Osaka, Japan
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You apparently have forgot or do not understand one very important fact of life. Most if not all of our population who take an anti hunting stand or just need something or someone to push them in that direction already accept an unrealistic view point. Their concept of nature is guided by other anti hunters or information that is as far removed from reality as "The Lost World". The anti hunting believer does not base their beliefs on reality. You cannot be an antihunter and be in touch with reality. An antihunter is not a person that choosed not to hunt. They are people that would deny you and I the freedom to hunt, own a firearm, or participate in any endeavor that could require the use of a firearm. These type people will point to movies or anything else which contain anything that defames a hunter to prove their point of view. You should never assume their decisions are based on reality. Personally, I feel "The Lost World" is too detacted from reality to have a significant impact on 99% of the population’s attitude towards hunting. Personally, I suggest many people, in similiar situations, would have felt underarmed with less than a 25mm Bradley fighting vehicle, or put another way, the only good dinosaur is a dead dinosaur (when it threatens your life)!
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J > Just curious to see if anyone else had the same reaction as I did to > Spielberg’s depiction of hunters in the new Jurassic Park movie. > You said in the movie a character said that only man hunts when he isn’t > hungry? The screenwriter needs to do a little homework. About ten years > ago, somebody wrote a book (anybody remember the title?) about how MAN > IS NOT THE ONLY ANIMAL THAT KILLS WITHOUT NEEDING TO.
Chimpanzees will also hunt other animals, kill them, and then divide the flesh. They dole it out in some sort of political-enhancing order. Also they will murder the young males of a female chimpanzee who enters their territory, then eat it too. Rats have long been known to kill the young and operate in what looks like delinquent gangs when they are crowded. This was observed more than thirty years ago and published in Scientific American. Lions will kill baby leopards. Mice will kill their own young when stressed and cornered. The movie writers are just putting forth propoganda
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= You said in the movie a character said that only man hunts when he isn’t = hungry? The screenwriter needs to do a little homework. About ten years = ago, somebody wrote a book (anybody remember the title?) about how MAN = IS NOT THE ONLY ANIMAL THAT KILLS WITHOUT NEEDING TO. In it were = passages about lions murdering each other in cold blood, badgers going = into hen houses, killing every chicken, and leaving without eating = anything, and on it went. Anybody remember that book? Wish I could quote = it. One needs only to observe the domestic cat to realize that there are other species who kill when not hungry… = James Vodar = Osaka, Japan — Best regards, Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby Los Alamos, NM "I’m the NRA!"
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I agree with James, some months ago there was a program on Discovery Channel which showed the cannibalistic behaviour of animals when it comes to establishing territory, mating or other reasons. They showed many animals including predators, fish as well as insects killing without a need for hunger. I hope next time Mr. Steven Spielberg checks out the facts in his scripts before making generalized statements to the whole world.
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> One needs only to observe the domestic cat to realize that there > are other species who kill when not hungry…
In fact, Tom cats will kill kittens that they did not produce. Note that these are the domestic cats that live in people’s homes and not feral animals. Chris Barnes (409) 846-3273 (home)
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: In fact, Tom cats will kill kittens that they did not produce. Note that : these are the domestic cats that live in people’s homes and not feral : animals. They come by it honest–a male lion that takes over a pride will kill all nursing cubs not his, then impregnate all the females as they come into season. Removin’ the competition, don’t'cha know? Jeff — Teamwork is essential. It gives them someone else to shoot at. Murphy’s Laws of Combat
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This practice is also common among lions who take over a pride after kicking the previous stud’s butt. For some reason, it also stimulates the lionesses to come into heat sooner. It also assures the the new big man’s blood will be passed on, while the old boy’s is finito. — Bruce & Susan Snyder ////// / Relax, release, and let go. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> One needs only to observe the domestic cat to realize that there > are other species who kill when not hungry… > In fact, Tom cats will kill kittens that they did not produce. Note that > these are the domestic cats that live in people’s homes and not feral > animals. > Chris Barnes (409) 846-3273 (home)
