Remington 700 vs. Ruger M77
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I’m in the market for a new deer/elk rifle. The 2 models I’ve been looking at are the Remington 700 and the Ruger M77. Any opinions as to which is the better rifle ? Perhaps there are other models I should consider ? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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> I’m in the market for a new deer/elk rifle. The 2 models I’ve been > looking at are the Remington 700 and the Ruger M77. Any opinions as to > which is the better rifle ? Perhaps there are other models I should > consider ?
Rem. M700 is hands down the best production bolt action rifle at "popular prices" in the world today. End of Story. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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> I’m in the market for a new deer/elk rifle. The 2 models I’ve been > looking at are the Remington 700 and the Ruger M77. Any opinions as to > which is the better rifle ? Perhaps there are other models I should > consider ? > Any input would be greatly appreciated.
"Better" is subjective. I would call them equal but different … both are available in most common calibers. If you want a .257 Roberts, you buy a Ruger, if you want .260 Rem or 7mm-08, you buy a Remington. Otherwise, you buy what fits you best. Personally, I buy Ruger if the caliber I want is available. I’m pretty comfortable working on both the original and Mk II triggers. With the springs that Remington ships, I’m going to be out some extra $$ to get a good trigger where I can do it myself with Ruger. The Ruger ring setup is a definite plus over ANY other brand of rifle. Contrary to popular belief, the Ruger is every bit as accurate as the Remington … sometimes it takes a little more load development to find that accuracy, though. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m in the market for a new deer/elk rifle. The 2 models I’ve been > looking at are the Remington 700 and the Ruger M77. Any opinions as to > which is the better rifle ? Perhaps there are other models I should > consider ? > Rem. M700 is hands down the best production bolt action rifle at > "popular prices" in the world today. End of Story. > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ > To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
Unless you are like me and favor a more Mauser style extractor. In which case "The M77 is a better rifle then the M700". End of Story. Ted — Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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I believe that you would enjoy either one. I have 2 Ruger M77 rifles, .277 & 30.06 and have been really please with the price and performace of both. > I’m in the market for a new deer/elk rifle. The 2 models I’ve been > looking at are the Remington 700 and the Ruger M77. Any opinions as to > which is the better rifle ? Perhaps there are other models I should > consider ? > Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ > To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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Instead of either of these rifles I would suggest buying the new Win M70 Classic. You get a very fine, very simple, adjustable trigger, controlled feeding, and a variety of configurations – blue, stainless, BOSS, etc. This is again the rifleman’s rifle. I priced one this am at $499 at the local gun emporium. Also available in left hand. I own both Ruger and Remington rifles, but I have stopped buying those brands because there are better options…jim dodd San Diego Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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>Instead of either of these rifles I would suggest buying the new Win M70
Classic. You get a very fine, very simple, adjustable trigger, controlled >feeding, and a variety of configurations – blue, stainless, BOSS, etc.
This is again the rifleman’s rifle. I priced one this am at $499 at the >local gun emporium. Also available in left hand.
You forgot blade ejector, field stripable bolt, three place striker block safety, hammer forged barrel, and CNC machining that allows tolerances never before found in production, or any rifles. I agree, for big game hunting the M70 is without a doubt the best factory production rifle made in the US, maybe anywhere. The only exception would be when weight is a prime factor like in a backpack rifle. Then the Remington wins. Now if Winchester would just make a decent synthetic stock for the M70. If you haven’t looked at the new/old M70 lately you should. If you are used to the old post-64 M70, this new rifle is something else. Off to Mozambique, Jim Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You forgot blade ejector, field stripable bolt, three place striker block > safety, hammer forged barrel, and CNC machining that allows tolerances never > before found in production, or any rifles. I agree, for big game hunting the > M70 is without a doubt the best factory production rifle made in the US, > maybe anywhere. The only exception would be when weight is a prime factor > like in a backpack rifle. Then the Remington wins. Now if Winchester would > just make a decent synthetic stock for the M70. > If you haven’t looked at the new/old M70 lately you should. If you are used > to the old post-64 M70, this new rifle is something else. > Off to Mozambique, > Jim
Jim – I’ll pester you with more of what I heaped on JimDodd … how does the current "pre-64" stack up against the original "pre-64" ??? I had 3 of those and they were as close to useless garbage as any rifle I ever owned. Granted, they were all used rifles, and so on, but none of them even new was of quality comparable to the current Ruger and Remington bolt actions. So … can you, will you, compare and contrast the new vs old "pre-64" … model 70s? If you think the new ones are substantially better, I may give one a try. Otherwise, I have to write ‘em off as the same over-rated pieces of crap the old ones were. Strong words, I know, but given my experience, that’s about as kind as I *can* be toward ‘em and still be honest. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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> Instead of either of these rifles I would suggest buying the new Win M70 > Classic. You get a very fine, very simple, adjustable trigger, controlled > feeding, and a variety of configurations – blue, stainless, BOSS, etc. > This is again the rifleman’s rifle. I priced one this am at $499 at the > local gun emporium. Also available in left hand. > I own both Ruger and Remington rifles, but I have stopped buying those > brands because there are better options…jim dodd > San Diego
Jim … I sure hope you’re not suggesting that the Winchester 70 is superior in any way to the Ruger 77 or Remington 700 … or at least not expecting to be taken seriously. I’ve had 3 Winchester 70s, all original pre-64s, not these modern imitations, and I won’t buy another. They’re pure JUNK. Could be that back when they were new, the 70 was the best thing going, but we’ve learned a lot since then and Winchester hasn’t kept up. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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Tom writes:
<<I sure hope you’re not suggesting that the Winchester 70 is superior in any way to the Ruger 77 or Remington 700 … or at least not expecting to be taken seriously.>> <snip> One way to settle this would be for you to go out and buy a rifle from the R-girls, while I buy a Winchester. We choose a hunting caliber, such as .30-06 or .338 Win Mag, and send both down to Shilen for one of their "evaluations". Then see what the results are. 
I do need a new .338… For my use, big game, the Winchester works "better" than either Ruger or Remington, but the last rifle I bought was a Savage M99! …jim dodd San Diego Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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> > I’m in the market for a new deer/elk rifle. The 2 models I’ve been > looking at are the Remington 700 and the Ruger M77. Any opinions as to > which is the better rifle ? Perhaps there are other models I should > consider ? > Any input would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Remington 700 adl in .308 and find that it does all I need it to and more. Granted that you probably will go heavier if you want to shoot Elk, my uncle shoots a 7mm magnum 700 and has no complaints. I use the rifle for white tail and, hopefully, next year will get a black bear with it. dave Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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I can’t compare between brands, but my son bought a RUGER M77 in 30.06 and the first time at the range we had 1.5 inch groups of three at 100 yards. I liked it so well that I am going to replace my 7mm Mag with a Ruger 7 Mag. in synthetic. I like the safety, the trigger, and the feel. I especially like the accuracy right out of the BOX. Regards Bo — OTHER PERTINENT INFORMATION YOU MAY NEED TO KNOW ! Physitron, Inc. Bo Also Knows HAM Radio……. KD4TL 3304A Westmill Dr. Bo Would LIKE to Know Golf…. Huntsville AL 35805 Located in the Beautiful Tennessee Valley. 205-534-4844 Rocket City USA 205-534-4846 FAX Where the Sky is NOT the Limit ! Also checkout the Webpage at http://www.physitron.com Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
