Newby muzzleloader questions

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#The germans doubleloaded their guns to destroy them so the russians couldnt #use em in ww2, DONT EVEN TRY IT Dol, What muzzleloaders did the Germans use in WWII? The pressure curves for black powder (and synthetics) is completely different to that for smokeless powders. There really isn’t a "double load" for muzzleloaders. The load is what shoots best. any more than that spreads groups and ends up burning outside the barrel. I shoot 50 gr. in my .45 cal. target muzzzleloader. If I shot 120, it wouldn’t hurt it, I’d just put more recoil to my body and a lot of unburned powder out the barrel. The real question to ask with a front stuffer is not "how much powder can I shoot?" but "How much powder gives me the energy I need and does that load shoot accurately?" Load it to whatever is required to get those two factors in sync. have fun. Don’t read gun stories ;-) Cheers/ Donald Carron, Preserve endangered species; collect a complete set Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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#There really isn’t a "double load" for muzzleloaders. The load is what shoots #best. any more than that spreads groups and ends up burning outside the #barrel. The "double loading" in question was not just doubling the powder.  The original question had to do with breaking in a new muzzle loader by loading powder and ball, then more powder and ball on top of that. That’s the dangerous part. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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-snip > The dixie gunworks catalog recommends that any newly > purchased muzzleloader should be test fired to proof it is > safe.  It describes tieing the rifle to a tire that is weighted > down with rocks.  Then it suggests to load the gun with > twice the recommended powder charge, and then load > TWO balls on top of the charge, one ball on top of the > other.

-snip I would not do this!  Any good manufacturer will have tested their rifles before leaving the factory, and will publish safe loading data in the instruction manual.  I would never load more than the recommended powder charge, and loading twice can only be asking for trouble.  Go with a proven manufacturer and follow their loading instructions. Todd Alexander                                 Mechanical Dynamics,Inc Senior Engineering Analyst                     2301 Commonwealth Blvd. (810)826-6461                                    Ann Arbor, MI   48105 [A Clinton Presidency will be] the most ethical administration in the history of the republic."  Candidate Bill Clinton, Putting People First, 1992 Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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> I am about to purchase my first muzzleloader.  And I have > a couple of questions? > The dixie gunworks catalog recommends that any newly > purchased muzzleloader should be test fired to proof it is > safe.  It describes tieing the rifle to a tire that is weighted > down with rocks.  Then it suggests to load the gun with > twice the recommended powder charge, and then load > TWO balls on top of the charge, one ball on top of the > other. > Is this really safe???

I know I wouldn’t try it!  A new muzzleloader shouldn’t need test firing anyway.  It’s never been suggested to me when I’ve purchased new muzzleloaders.  In fact, Rebel Arms here in Houston took me out back to their range after I purchased the first one, and showed me how to load it, UNLOAD it (that’s very important at times) and shoot it.  Never once did they suggest double loading it.  In fact, they will warn you against overloading the powder charge. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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The germans doubleloaded their guns to destroy them so the russians couldnt use em in ww2, DONT EVEN TRY IT Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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If there is a better or more appropriate place to post this please let me know.  :) I am about to purchase my first muzzleloader.  And I have a couple of questions? The dixie gunworks catalog recommends that any newly purchased muzzleloader should be test fired to proof it is safe.  It describes tieing the rifle to a tire that is weighted down with rocks.  Then it suggests to load the gun with twice the recommended powder charge, and then load TWO balls on top of the charge, one ball on top of the other. Is this really safe??? Should this be done even if it is a new rifle from TC or other manufacturer? Won’t it void the rifles warranty? I’ve never loaded or fired a muzzleloader before.  Is it simple enough that I could just go to a firing range and just do it?  Or would you recommend that I find someone with experience to actually show me how it’s done before I try it on my own? Thanks, Mont Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING

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