Help 7mm vs. 300 mag
Question:
The high energy loads will damage the action in your semi-auto. The higher pressure developed by these loads requires the strength of a bolt action. Besides, what fun is using your .308 when you’ve already convinced yourself that you "need" a 7mm or 300 Win Mag? -=Arthur=- Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
Response:
Buy the 7mm the light magnum does have better performance than regular 308, but not 7mm magnum . just a note. I just bought a Weatherby Vanguard at WalMart on sale for $365. it was in 300 Weatherby (may favorite caliber except maybe 45-70) They also have it in 7mm Magnum. good luck besides what sort of person thinks its good to only be happy with one gun?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I posted this question and I want to thank all of the those who replied. I > think the 7mm will be the best for me since it is flat and powerful and I > cannot envision me ever hunting Elk. Now a new question. I got to the gun > store and got in a discussion about the stupid CA gun laws and finally on > why I wanted a 7mm instead of a popular .308 that I own. He smiled and > walked over to the shelf and took out two boxes, one Federal High Power or > something and Hornady light magnum, both in .308. then he compared these > ballistic to the 7mm and 300 and they were almost identical. He says save > your money on the rifle and use the High Energy stuff if you are going to > hunt longer range or bigger game. What do you guys think? I am using a Win > mod 100 semi-auto. Maybe it can’t handle the high energy stuff??? > Bill > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I posted this question and I want to thank all of the those who replied. I think the 7mm will be the best for me since it is flat and powerful and I cannot envision me ever hunting Elk. Now a new question. I got to the gun store and got in a discussion about the stupid CA gun laws and finally on why I wanted a 7mm instead of a popular .308 that I own. He smiled and walked over to the shelf and took out two boxes, one Federal High Power or something and Hornady light magnum, both in .308. then he compared these ballistic to the 7mm and 300 and they were almost identical. He says save your money on the rifle and use the High Energy stuff if you are going to hunt longer range or bigger game. What do you guys think? I am using a Win mod 100 semi-auto. Maybe it can’t handle the high energy stuff??? Bill Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> cannot envision me ever hunting Elk. Now a new question. I got to the gun > store and got in a discussion about the stupid CA gun laws and finally on > why I wanted a 7mm instead of a popular .308 that I own. He smiled and > walked over to the shelf and took out two boxes, one Federal High Power or > something and Hornady light magnum, both in .308. then he compared these > ballistic to the 7mm and 300 and they were almost identical. He says save > your money on the rifle and use the High Energy stuff if you are going to > hunt longer range or bigger game. What do you guys think? I am using a Win > mod 100 semi-auto. Maybe it can’t handle the high energy stuff???
Bill: I’m not sure it can handle the high energy ammo, and I’d probably not try. I do know that the M1 and M1A1 are designed with faster burning powders in mind so as not to hammer the gas system. Others in the group may confirm or deny this issue with your Model 100. On the issue of comparability to the belted magnums, your gun-store clerk is sadly misinformed. First, and most important, the .308 won’t handle the heavier bullets you need to use on larger game, the case simply isn’t big enough to stuff enough powder into it. This is true even though the HE stuff uses highly compressed charges of slow burning powder. There is no realistic comparison between the .308 and the .300 WinMag. Though the .308 is a great round, and you’ll never see any practical difference when hunting only deer with 150 – 165 grain bullets, the .300 is simply much more powerful with all bullet weights, and you can go up to 220 grains in one. The heaviest practical bullet the .308 can launch is 180 grains, and we’re talking rainbow trajectory compared to a flat-shooting .300. Now if all you’re gonna hunt is deer, stick with the .308. Course, if you’re wanting 300 yard accuracy, the Winchester 100 is going to shoot much larger groups than a bolt gun. Also, while the box might say the ballistics are similar, you should know that most factories employ extra long heavy test barrels, which get the highest velocity out of their ammo. Conversely, your 100, with its shorter (is it about 20"?) barrel, won’t come near to advertised velocities with any brand of ammo, and the HE stuff burns so slowly it probably couldn’t possibly achieve full velocity in your short barrel and gas action. A 24" belted magnum will get a lot closer to advertised specs. Finally, if anyone thinks this is a .308 flame or belted magnum glory story, I’m taking my 6.5×55 Swedish Mauser in the deer woods with me this year, after ten years of 7 mag action. Most of us really don’t need magnum power, but damn, it sure can give one confidence in those long shot situations. Buy what you want, practice till your ears bleed, and don’t let some gun store clerk tell you stories about paper ballistics. Dave Remy (GSP) and Mauser (GSD) http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/rapids/7061 Earth First! We can hunt the other planets later. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
