Fwd: Bring Back the Bison! New Campaign!
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# #Hello: # #I ran across this today and wanted to pass it along to you, as I truely # #beleive this is an issue who’s time has come! # #Sincerely, # #Stacy R. Swain # #http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/sgtbutler # # ##For those of you who are interested in the environment and native # #>wildlife species, I would like to introduce you to our newly forming #environmental organization, Bring Back the Bison! # ## # ##Wyoming is a very conservative state lacking an aggressive # #>environmental group that is really working for positive change. # # [ snip ] # # As I recall, "gun control" started rather innocuously, too. I wonder how # soon this organization will become controlled by those who would # ultimately demand a complete cessation of big-game hunting in WY, and # eventually in all states? # # "Once burned, twice shy." # # -jc- # # — # # Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: # http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ # # To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING # # JC - To hunt or not to hunt is not our focus. The natural environment and native wildlife species are. Other organizations are fighting for or against hunting but the issue we are working on is the excessive livestock grazing that has nothing to do with hunting. The effects of excessive livestock grazing does affect hunters and nonhunters alike by curtailing the number of wildlife species so I invite everyone to help with this issue. For the Wildlife, Jeff Tombaugh Bring Back the Bison! P.O. Box 2303 Evanston WY 82931-2303 Bring Back the Bison! The New Campaign to Restore Western Wildlife! Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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Hello: I ran across this today and wanted to pass it along to you, as I truely beleive this is an issue who’s time has come! Sincerely, Stacy R. Swain http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/sgtbutler #For those of you who are interested in the environment and native >wildlife species, I would like to introduce you to our newly forming >environmental organization, Bring Back the Bison! # #Wyoming is a very conservative state lacking an aggressive >environmental group that is really working for positive change. #Bring Back the Bison! will fill this niche and I invite anyone to offer >advice, suggestions, or support for our new campaign to begin June 1, >1999. What we are doing now is reviewing resumes from interested #people and from these resumes we will be seeking funding from #interested foundations to help us launch the campaign. # #Our organization goals are to: reduce public land livestock grazing to >benefit the environment and native wildlife species, educate people on >the harmful effects caused by current excessive livestock grazing on >the public lands, and initiate legislation to place preference on >native wildlife values and natural ecosystem processes. Please help us >out by spreading the word and giving out our email address so that >interested parties can get in touch with us. For more info on job >opportunities, please contact me directly or check out e-jobs on the >net by searching environmental jobs. Thank you for your interest in >the Bring Back the Bison! project. # #PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COPY AND DISTRIBUTE. # #For the Wildlife, #Jeff Tombaugh #Bring Back the Bison! # #Bring Back the Bison! #P.O. Box 2303 #Evanston WY 82931-2303 # #Bring Back the Bison! The New Campaign to Restore Western Wildlife! Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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#Hello: #I ran across this today and wanted to pass it along to you, as I truely #beleive this is an issue who’s time has come! #Sincerely, #Stacy R. Swain #http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/sgtbutler ##For those of you who are interested in the environment and native #>wildlife species, I would like to introduce you to our newly forming >environmental organization, Bring Back the Bison! ## ##Wyoming is a very conservative state lacking an aggressive #>environmental group that is really working for positive change. [ snip ] As I recall, "gun control" started rather innocuously, too. I wonder how soon this organization will become controlled by those who would ultimately demand a complete cessation of big-game hunting in WY, and eventually in all states? "Once burned, twice shy." -jc- — Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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Knowing a little bit about Bison (Buffalo) to us old timers, at present there are thousands of these animals on preserves and in National Parks.. there is not enough open range in North America to support large herds of same..the outcry is from the Porcupine Kissers who want these beautiful beamouths to grow large fangs, towering over us and eliminate the human race..does anyone think what might have happened if the Dinasours did not become extinct..we would be food…But I can attest to and provide information on the healthy Bison herds in North America..(and it’s growing steadily) despite elimination of unhealthy and older animals from Yellowstone Park.. Most Respectfully; — " The Media’s handling of all matters, domestic and foreign, is hopelessly inept and always dangerously misleading." Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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# Knowing a little bit about Bison (Buffalo) to us old timers, at present # there are thousands of these animals on preserves and in National # Parks.. there is not enough open range in North America to support large # herds of same..the outcry is from the Porcupine Kissers # who want these beautiful beamouths to grow large fangs, towering over # us and eliminate the human race..does anyone think what might have # happened if the Dinasours did not become extinct..we would be food…But # I can attest to and provide information on the healthy Bison herds in # North America..(and it’s growing steadily) despite elimination of # unhealthy and older animals from Yellowstone Park.. # # Most Respectfully; # # — # " The Media’s handling of all matters, domestic and foreign, # is hopelessly inept and always dangerously misleading." # # Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: # http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ # # To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING # # Hey Mr. Bowser: Are you relating wild bison to dinosaurs? If so, how about relating most of the western wildlife species to dinosaurs because they too were here long before your ignorant responses that you have wasted space in this newsgroup posting. If anyone is familiar with western public land policies and wildlife issues in general you will find that not only are wild buffalo populations extremely small in relation to private cattle and sheep grazing on our public lands but the other wildlife species are also. Our public lands are severely overgrazed by domestic livestock and quite frankly if people like you think there are enough wild animals out there they had better ponder this one over their next prime rib dinner: 3.2 Million cattle graze in Wyoming, the majority spend some time on the public lands at the direct expense of the wildlife species. Several million more cattle graze in Montana -wild buffalo 350 maybe if you want to count the bison that are fenced in on the Flathead Rez. This process has happened over only the past 200 years. What do the next hundred years look like? As the population of this country grows, there are larger profit incentives to reduce all wildlife numbers and support more cattle numbers. Mr. Bowser is most likely a hunter that has lost touch with reality. If you like hunting for elk or deer out west ain’t it great to see hundreds of private livestock on your public lands eating the forage away while some rich rancher keeps his private land lush to attract the wildlife (only the wildlife that will benefit the greedy individual) there are very few dinosaur wolves, and for that matter dinosaur deer, elk, bighorn sheep, and all wild critters on public lands because the public land ranchers control our lands. I tell you what Mr. Bowser, please give me your address and when our campaign to restore the western wildlife is finally under way, I will gladly pay to send you our upcoming newsletters, "The Public Wastelands" maybe I’ll come to your home and show them to you. And then you can insult me by calling wildlife dinosaurs because I will show you the truthful proof. Some people are working hard to remove the wildlife, pull the wool over the general public’s eyes, and lie, cheat, and steal in order to finally kill the lands and most everything grazing on it, including their livestock. They don’t care about the future otherwise our public lands would not be virtually exclusive severely overgrazed cattle ranches. They are working for short term solutions that I have no faith in, keep killing the wildlife and overgraze the western public lands until they are deserts and nothing can be supported by them. Do you think many of these people care about passing ranching down to their grandkids? No, because they have shown their excellent stewardship[ of the lands to many people that realize that the lands, water, and wildlife are dying while they benefit in the short term. Our huge wildlife organizations continue to cave in to the livestock industry, they are all doing a good job of protecting and enhancing wildlife populations that individuals can hunt but are virtually ignoring those that cannot be hunted such as wolves, grizzlies, wild buffalo etc. This is a matter of perspective and Naturalists perspectives reflect the viewpoint that ecosystems are a fine balance of wildlife and the environment that may or may not depending on who you talk to can support human killing of some wildlife species. But what has happened out west is that the livestock industry has ruined virtually all natural ecosystems and are the ones to be addressed. If once again, there were millions of wild buffalo roaming the public lands and very few private cattle and sheep, what would the public land ranchers think? They would think the same thing that they have been thinking all along in their distorted way of thinking, that there are already enough wildlife species and their numbers are large enough. I’m telling you honestly, that I believe you have ruined the west, and are continuing to do so because I hardly see any wildlife anymore. What I do see whether I pick up my rifle, bow, or camera is thousands of mooing cattle and bawling bell ringing private livestock on my public lands while I jump over fences and stumble over salt licks placed in fragile riparian areas to intentionally lure cattle into areas that should be willows, shrubs and lush 3 foot undergrowth but now I can get out my putter and as long as I avoid the piles of cow crap, I can practice as well as on any golf course that I have played. How is this fair Mr. Bowser? Jeff Tombaugh Bring Back the Bison! Bring Back the Bison! P.O. Box 2303 Evanston WY 82931-2303 Bring Back the Bison! The New Campaign to Restore Western Wildlife! PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COPY AND DISTRIBUTE ANY OF MY POSTS. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
