7mm STW
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I am thinking of purchasing a Rem 700 BDL rechambered for 7mm STW. What are some thoughts on this caliber, pluses, minuses etc.? I do reload and I was thinking of using this round on deer and wild pigs. TIA John Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> I am thinking of purchasing a Rem 700 BDL rechambered for 7mm STW. What are > some thoughts on this caliber, pluses, minuses etc.? I do reload and I was > thinking of using this round on deer and wild pigs. > TIA > John
Unless you’re hunting those wild hogs and deer at ranges consistently exceeding 300 yards, I would not choose it. I had a Sendero 7mm STW for a while. Very accurate, shot flat, but it was too fast. At ranges under 100 yards, I was getting more spectacular results with that rifle with 160 grain partitions than I was with my .220 Swift … on digger squirrels. I’m used to thinking of hunting wild pigs as a short range affair. I think you’d be better served by a 7mm-08. For deer, as a bean field cartridge, yeah, the STW should be good, but for any other style of hunting there are a lot of better cartridge choices. You may find recoil objectionable; it’s on the same order of magnitude as the .300 Win Mag … same momentum, lighter bullet, more velocity. However, it is a quicker, sharper jab than the .300. In my 700 BDL (stainless synthetic) the .300 is just no fun and the STW is going to be worse. Add a pound to pound and a half and it’s not so bad. Even in the Sendero SF, though, the STW’s recoil added up and by the end of 40-50 rounds I was walking funny with one shoulder hangin’ lower than the other and a facial twitch that’d last a day or two. Don’t get me wrong … it’s a fun cartridge and I miss my Sendero enough I may have another one built. It’s kinda addictive, just not all that useful for most hunters. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> I am thinking of purchasing a Rem 700 BDL rechambered for 7mm STW. What are > some thoughts on this caliber, pluses, minuses etc.? I do reload and I was > thinking of using this round on deer and wild pigs.
It’s a fine round; will do anything that can be done with 7mm bullets, but the cost in noise, recoil, long awkward rifle, and powder seems not worth paying considering what you want to do with it. For deer and wild pigs I see no reason for anything more than the .280 Rem if 7mm is your favorite diameter. Why would you bother with such a round for your uses? Larry Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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>Anyone have some good recipes for the 7MM STW. I picked up a Stainless Ruger >No.1 in 7mm STW and dressed it in a nice Burriss 6-18x Fullfield, and now I >suggestions would be welcome.
Try the Swift 150 grain Scirocco bullets. I have been using VV N560 and get very consistent results 3,300 FPS and groups in the low .4’s. I have posted some results on deer and antelope with this load and have been very happy with it. I personally will not look at any other bullets after seeing the perfect performance. I have also heard some very high speeds from RL25. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Anyone have some good recipes for the 7MM STW. I picked up a Stainless Ruger No.1 in 7mm STW and dressed it in a nice Burriss 6-18x Fullfield, and now I gotta feed it! I hope to use 139gr Hornady SSTs, 175 gr Remington, 140 Nosler Ballistic Tips and Ballistic Silvertips for starters. Any and all suggestions would be welcome. Regards, Jack in Manassas Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> Anyone have some good recipes for the 7MM STW. I picked up a Stainless Ruger > No.1 in 7mm STW and dressed it in a nice Burriss 6-18x Fullfield, and now I > gotta feed it! I hope to use 139gr Hornady SSTs, 175 gr Remington, 140 > Nosler Ballistic Tips and Ballistic Silvertips for starters. Any and all > suggestions would be welcome. > Regards, > Jack in Manassas
1) Cases fire formed from Winchester .300 H&H brass, Federal 215 primers, 87 grains of H5010 and a moly coated 160 grain nosler partition. 2) Remington 7mm STW brass, Federal 215 primers, 83 grains of IMR 7828 and a moly coated 120 grain Ballistic Tip. Both of these went into three quarters of an inch at 200 yards from my stainless 700 Sendero. I don’t recall the load, but I did get ok accuracy with 7828 and the 140 grain partition. I couldn’t get good accuracy with 150 grain bullets; I couldn’t find a powder with a burn rate appropriate for that weight. H1000 looked good on paper but failed miserably. RL25, which wasn’t available at the time, might be the ticket. Warning … the STW is *fast*. I’d hesitate to shoot a deer inside 300 yards with it regardless of bullet. I hit a digger squirrel with one of those 160 grain partitions and the results looked more like a .220 Swift than an elk load. It absolutely grenaded him. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> I am looking for reloading data for the 7mm STW, any info or pet loads? > Thanks in advance.
You will find if you use Weatherby brass you will get the advertised velocities. The reason is this brass is thinner and harder than, for example, Remington brass is. If you can’t get the velocity you expect, try this brass !! JBD in OKC
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I am looking for reloading data for the 7mm STW, any info or pet loads? Thanks in advance.
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I have been thinking about trading my 338 for a 7mm STW. I need to no if there is anyone out there that can tell me about the caliber and if there is any loads for it that would work well on moose and bear. 140 grain bullets just won’t cut it for a grizzly. Also if you can tell me weather you would choose a Remmington or Winchester in the Sendaro or Laradeo. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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I love my 7 MAG but I think it’s a little light for griz–175gr for moose and BLACK bear is finebut I’d keep the338 for the big bears justt my 2 cents Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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> I have been thinking about trading my 338 for a 7mm STW. I need to no > if there is anyone out there that can tell me about the caliber and if > there is any loads for it that would work well on moose and bear. 140 > grain bullets just won’t cut it for a grizzly. Also if you can tell > me weather you would choose a Remmington or Winchester in the Sendaro > or Laradeo.
I would not trade. If you have to choose one or the other, the .338 is more versitile. I see the 7MM STW as a special purpose cartridge for medium game at extended ranges. The .338 can be loaded with bullets from 160-ish to 200 grains for deer and smaller black bear. It is at it’s best as an elk cartridge with 210-230 grain bullets. It does quite well on black bear with these loads as well. It can handle bigger bears pretty well with 225 to 275 grain bullets. I would only get the STW as an additional gun, not as an alternative to the .338 … that is, assuming you actually NEED the .338. Guess what? I have a .338 and I’m looking at getting a 7mm STW. I’m after the Remington 700 Stainless Sendero. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ To leave the Hunting listserv list, send a message with SIGNOFF HUNTING
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With a Sako, what kind of accuracy can I expect to see at 100 yds ? Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> With a Sako, what kind of accuracy can I expect to see at 100 yds ?
Heck if I know; that varies from rifle to rifle more than brand to brand. My stainless Rem 700 Sendero was generally good for 0.75" or better at 100 yards and the same at 200 yards. By 300 yards, it seemed to shoot 1.5" or better groups. Never measured any 600 yard groups on a day that seemed still enough to guess what was repeatable accuracy and what was lucky wind doping, but the groups seemed to run in the 4-1/2" to 5" range. I traded it; thought I had the wrong gun. Now I’m kicking myself ’cause its replacement isn’t so impressive. In fact, is not impressive. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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With a properly bedded action and a barrel that has been broken in the right way, one should get sub moa at 100 yards with reloads. I get right at 1 1/2 moa at 200 yards with mine. Now, this is not just any reload, but one that has been "tuned" to the rifle. "Man will ultimately be governed by GOD or by tyrants." Benjamin Franklin Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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: With a properly bedded action and a barrel that has been broken in the : right way, one should get sub moa at 100 yards with reloads. I get right : at 1 1/2 moa at 200 yards with mine. : Now, this is not just any reload, but one that has been "tuned" to the : rifle. If I bedded the action, broke in the barrel the "right way" and tuned the load to the rifle, I would not be happy with 1-1/2 moa at 200 yards, I’d expect that out of the box. You do realize that 1 moa at 200 yards is about a 2" circle. samg Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Is this a good choice for mule deer at long range?. Does this caliber offer good accuracy and groups?? Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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If you can handle the recoil, it is an excellent cartridge for long range. However, wind drift on all cartridges makes long range shots difficult in all but the calmest conditions. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I purchased a Remington 700 AWR about a year ago, in cal. 7mmSTW, and am very pleased with it. The STW shoots about 200 fps faster than the 7mm Rem mag with comparable factory loads. I would suggest a bullet weight of 140 to 160 gr. for mule deer. The extra 200 fps will help on long range shooting, flatter trajectory, and less wind drift. When it comes to reloads, you can get 300 to 400 fps faster than the Rem mag. Last Sept. I went to Wyoming, pronghorn hunting with my STW. Shot a real nice buck at 500 yards with a 120 gr. Nosler ballistic tip traveling at 3550 fps. (this is my reloads). Note that you should practice ALOT at distances this great, before being confidant at that range. Your choice of a STW is a wise one, IMHO. Remington, Winchester, Sako, and A-Square all make fine factory rifles in 7mmSTW. With Winchester 70 Classic being on the low end of the price list, about $650, and the Remington 700 AWR being on the higher end, about $1495. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
