.30-06 varmit load?
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I have used a 308w on a fox, it was reloaded with a125 gr spitzer to a velocity of app.. 2600 fps . you have to make sure there is nothing of value behind your target because it still will have a lot of power left – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.hunting Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 1:46 PM > I know this is a little overkill, but I’m planning to help a buddy dispose > of several foxes and groundhogs on his property. He’s literally half blind > and can’t shoot himself, so I offered to help out. Only problem is my only > rifle is a Remington 7400 autoloader in .30-06 caliber. Can anyone > recommend a load for this task? I would prefer not to use a full power deer > load for this, and I really do not want to go buy a new rifle, even a little > ..22LR. > Thanks, > Dave > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I may have the answer for you! I have a 30-30 and a 30-06 and strapped for cash to buy a smaller gun for varmints. I talked to a taxidermist friend and he had a couple of ideas. You can use military rounds(balistic tip) or use the Remington Accelerator rounds. These are 55 grain bullets in a sabot sleeve. Currently I use the 30-30 Accelerators, they work like a champ. I just nail a lynx at 125 yards behind the ear. It is an awesome alternative to buying another gun. Good luck. Jim Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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these slugs were reputed to be pretty erratic. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I don’t remember the manufacturer and I don’t know if this is still > available , but there was a load called the "Accelerator" made for 308 and > 3006.. > Cases in the above calibures with sabot loads in 55 gr bullets made just for > the purpose you are describing. > Check with your local sporting goods store > Good Luck > Jim > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I bought a box of Federals classic loaded with a 125 gr sierra. It shot quite well through the Remington 721 that I had at the time. Not benchrest accuracy at all, but as good as it shot anything else. Remington and Winchester also make a version of this load. CAL Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> Guess my speer manual is dated. I’ve got number 11. Is it worth it to upgrade to > the latest version? > Thanks! > Jeff
Depends. If you’re a reloader of the sort who cooks up one load for a rifle and then shoots that forever, never experimenting again, then it might not be real useful to buy a new manual. For me, I have the experimenting bug, so I want the latest stuff with loads for the newest powders and bullets. B’sides, I like reading the cartridge descriptions and the techniques sections. I loaded my first cartridge when I was about 8. I’ve only loaded roughly 80,000 to 100,000 rounds for 30-40 different cartridges on a single stage press in the past 30 years. I’m finally reaching the point where I can appreciate how much more I have to learn. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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My buddy and I have successfully used the 125 grain ballistic tip in two 30-06’s (both Rem 700 ADLs) and two .308’s (one Rem 700 ADL and one Springfield M1A Scout). Accurate (MOA or better) loads with this bullet were surprisingly easy to come by, and were achieved with the first or second powder tried on all four rifles. On both .308’s and one 30-06, Varget was the powder of choice, with H380 also showing promise. In the other 30-06, H414 was the powder of choice. We’ve killed countless groundhogs, fox, crows, and even deer with this bullet in these guns. I don’t recommend the 100-110 grain bullets. It takes a lot more fiddling to make them shoot well. If the 125 grain ballistic tip is too expensive, the 130 grain Hornady is also a good choice, but it moves a lot more in the wind. The suggestion to simply use your normal deer loads is also a good one. We killed countless varmints with our 165 grain deer loads before we started experimenting with the 125 grain ballistic tip, and if we weren’t so averse to its recoil, we’d probably still be shooting 165 grain deer loads at all our varmints too. We never had a groundhog, crow, or coyote stand up and complain (or go anywhere) after being hit with a 165 grain deer bullet. Michael Courtney Before you buy. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I don’t remember the manufacturer and I don’t know if this is still available , but there was a load called the "Accelerator" made for 308 and 3006.. Cases in the above calibures with sabot loads in 55 gr bullets made just for the purpose you are describing. Check with your local sporting goods store Good Luck Jim Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Guess my speer manual is dated. I’ve got number 11. Is it worth it to upgrade to the latest version? Thanks! Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know this is a little overkill, but I’m planning to help a buddy dispose > of several foxes and groundhogs on his property. He’s literally half blind > and can’t shoot himself, so I offered to help out. Only problem is my only > rifle is a Remington 7400 autoloader in .30-06 caliber. Can anyone > recommend a load for this task? I would prefer not to use a full power deer > load for this, and I really do not want to go buy a new rifle, even a little > ..22LR. > Thanks, > Dave > Keep the range short, and use Speer’s data to fire their 110 grain HP with a > reduced load using SR 4759 or IMR 4198. I’ve used that bullet up to 3300 fps; > it slows down fast, but at close range it’s devastating. Otherwise, work up a > full power, light-bullet load with either Speer’s 125 grain TNT or the Nosler > 125 grain Ballistic Tip. > Tom > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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what the hell- go for the 125 grain and have some fun 100 grain are hard to find – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: rec.hunting Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 2:46 PM > I know this is a little overkill, but I’m planning to help a buddy dispose > of several foxes and groundhogs on his property. He’s literally half blind > and can’t shoot himself, so I offered to help out. Only problem is my only > rifle is a Remington 7400 autoloader in .30-06 caliber. Can anyone > recommend a load for this task? I would prefer not to use a full power deer > load for this, and I really do not want to go buy a new rifle, even a little > ..22LR. > Thanks, > Dave > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: > http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/ Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> An excuse like this to buy another gun and you are passing it up? > Tom’s advice on the reduced load 110 grain sounds good, but I would > question reliability with a reduced load in a 7400. The Remington > semi-auto’s I have dealt with have not been that reliable to begin with. > John
I didn’t make the 7400 = semiauto connection. I’m not sure how the Remington functions, but some semi-autos are not real flexible with powder charges and burn rate changes that would normally go along with changing bullet weights. They can either fail to cycle, or cycle so hard they break things. Example: the gas-operated Desert Eagle pistol is tuned to 240 grain bullets and AA#9. In playing with one, we found that it was very accurate with 180 grain JHPs over a max-ish load of H110. We were burning 25% more of a slower powder, so the pressure was still up when the action started to cycle. Most all of the 180 grain bullet handloads had significant bulges of the case body forward of the web. This was never a problem with 240 grain bullets. With 300 grain bullets, we could seldom get enough powder in there to produce enough gas to cycle the action reliably. I’m pretty sure that reduce loads in that 7400 are going to be a failure if cycling the action is important to you. Before trying the sort of higher-end varmint loads I suggested, I’d contact Remington and find out if their factory 125 grain load is recommended in the 7400; if so, you can probably make things work ok, if not, you might risk damaging the operating mechanism. Caution … always caution. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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speer 100 grain plinker with 14 grains green dot. Might not work the action. > Can anyone >recommend a load for this task? I would prefer not to use a full power deer >load for this, and I really do not want to go buy a new rifle, even a little >..22LR.
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> I know this is a little overkill, but I’m planning to help a buddy dispose > of several foxes and groundhogs on his property. He’s literally half blind > and can’t shoot himself, so I offered to help out. Only problem is my only > rifle is a Remington 7400 autoloader in .30-06 caliber. Can anyone > recommend a load for this task? I would prefer not to use a full power deer > load for this, and I really do not want to go buy a new rifle, even a little > ..22LR. > Thanks, > Dave
For this small task, I would not change anything. Your standard "deer load" already shoots to the point of aim. Why change, just go remove the varmints from your friends problem list. Steve Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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An excuse like this to buy another gun and you are passing it up? Tom’s advice on the reduced load 110 grain sounds good, but I would question reliability with a reduced load in a 7400. The Remington semi-auto’s I have dealt with have not been that reliable to begin with. John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know this is a little overkill, but I’m planning to help a buddy dispose > of several foxes and groundhogs on his property. He’s literally half blind > and can’t shoot himself, so I offered to help out. Only problem is my only > rifle is a Remington 7400 autoloader in .30-06 caliber. Can anyone > recommend a load for this task? I would prefer not to use a full power > deer > load for this, and I really do not want to go buy a new rifle, even a > little > ..22LR. > Thanks, > Dave >Keep the range short, and use Speer’s data to fire their 110 grain HP with a >reduced load using SR 4759 or IMR 4198. I’ve used that bullet up to 3300 >fps; >it slows down fast, but at close range it’s devastating. Otherwise, work >up a >full power, light-bullet load with either Speer’s 125 grain TNT or the Nosler >125 grain Ballistic Tip. >Tom
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I know this is a little overkill, but I’m planning to help a buddy dispose of several foxes and groundhogs on his property. He’s literally half blind and can’t shoot himself, so I offered to help out. Only problem is my only rifle is a Remington 7400 autoloader in .30-06 caliber. Can anyone recommend a load for this task? I would prefer not to use a full power deer load for this, and I really do not want to go buy a new rifle, even a little ..22LR. Thanks, Dave Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> I know this is a little overkill, but I’m planning to help a buddy dispose > of several foxes and groundhogs on his property. He’s literally half blind > and can’t shoot himself, so I offered to help out. Only problem is my only > rifle is a Remington 7400 autoloader in .30-06 caliber. Can anyone > recommend a load for this task? I would prefer not to use a full power deer > load for this, and I really do not want to go buy a new rifle, even a little > ..22LR. > Thanks, > Dave
Keep the range short, and use Speer’s data to fire their 110 grain HP with a reduced load using SR 4759 or IMR 4198. I’ve used that bullet up to 3300 fps; it slows down fast, but at close range it’s devastating. Otherwise, work up a full power, light-bullet load with either Speer’s 125 grain TNT or the Nosler 125 grain Ballistic Tip. Tom Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
