270 for Christmas

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 My son wants a 270 rifle for Christmas-I am planning to get a bolt action- I have looked at a Remington and a Browning,and  am going to another store Tues.that has a Sig-   Can anybody give me some advice  Thanks,  M Before you buy. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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>  My son wants a 270 rifle for Christmas-I am planning to get a bolt > action- I have looked at a Remington and a Browning,and  am going to > another store Tues.that has a Sig- >   Can anybody give me some advice >  Thanks, >  M

Both fine guns, but if money is a concern, the Savage is a fine bolt action hunting weapon too and for considerably less money on average.  This would be especially true if he is so young  that he will physically outgrow the gun and need a different stock etc as he reaches full height in a few years.  If money is not a real concern, I would get the Browning with the BOSS system to control recoil now, and for fine tuning with the CR attachment as he gets older.  Bolt action is certainly the best way to teach good hunting to a kid…make the first shot the only shot and all. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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>  My son wants a 270 rifle for Christmas-I am planning to get a bolt > action- I have looked at a Remington and a Browning,and  am going to > another store Tues.that has a Sig- >   Can anybody give me some advice >  Thanks, >  M

You’ll probably get a lot of answers to your question and all will reflect personal bias to one extent or another. (BTW, great caliber choice. Another caliber option in the same class to consider would be the .280 Remington.) I like the Remington M700 because: 1) It is the most inherantly accurate commercial action available. If a benchrest shooter is shooting a rifle based on a commercial action, it is a Remington. 2) If there is ever any kind of modification you want to make to the rifle, it WILL be available for the M700. 3) The M700 has the best factory trigger available. It generally is pretty good out of the box and it is easily adjustable by a competant gunsmith to make it even better. The best answer to your question though is you should get your son the rifle that fits him the best and the one he likes the most. After all, he will have it for a long time. (BTW, you didn’t list what would be my second choice. The Ruger M77. I have one of these in .270 and love it.) Good luck and good hunting. Your son will love his new rifle. Certified Wildlife Biologist         – - – - Illegitimi Non Carborundum Est – - – - THOSE who trade essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.      Benjamin Franklin Bad officials are the ones elected by good citizens who do not vote.       George Jean Nathan Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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It’s not a 270 but I recently bought a Savage 110 w/scope(bolt action) in 243.  I have it shooting 1" groups at 100yds.  I would think the 270 is capable of doing the same.  Saved about $250 over the Remmington 700 I was looking at. (But, I have to admit the Remmington is a *much* nicer looking rifle) Bill W. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->  My son wants a 270 rifle for Christmas-I am planning to get a bolt > action- I have looked at a Remington and a Browning,and  am going to > another store Tues.that has a Sig- >   Can anybody give me some advice >  Thanks, >  M > Both fine guns, but if money is a concern, the Savage is a fine bolt action > hunting weapon too and for considerably less money on average.  This would be > especially true if he is so young  that he will physically outgrow the gun and > need a different stock etc as he reaches full height in a few years.  If money > is not a real concern, I would get the Browning with the BOSS system to > control recoil now, and for fine tuning with the CR attachment as he gets > older.  Bolt action is certainly the best way to teach good hunting to a > kid…make the first shot the only shot and all. > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: >         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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I bought a combo deal from Walmart last year, a Model 70 in .270 with a synthetic stock and a bore sighted Simmons 3×9 x 32 scope on it. It is dead on accurate at 200 yards although because of my failing eyesight, I am going to a bigger scope, but I have used it this year and not a single deer has gone more than 50 feet after being hit. Walmart sells them for $339 and that is the same price you can buy a Remington 700 without a scope. Couple of rounds on a target to finalize the sights and you are ready for hunting. Tim Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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M, look at the Pawn shops in the area for what   you need.  If you ca put him off for a month or two you may find a couple of good deals when people start selling their stuff to pay for Xmas.  Kinda sad to do it that way, but one man’s loss is another man’s gain — A true hunter approaches the first day of hunting much as a child approaches Christmas, with the eager anticipation, sleepless nights, making of lists, and the anticipating of pleasure. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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Walmart sells them for $339 and that > is the same price you can buy a Remington 700 without a scope. Couple of > rounds on a target to finalize the sights and you are ready for hunting. > Tim

Of course, Tim….a Winchester with a 3×9 scope you don’t care for is pretty much a Winchester without a scope as well. Lance Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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Either would be fine guns for a gift, and if the intent of the rifle is for hunting, I would not get the BOSS due to excessive noise. I own a Browing A-bolt and my brother-in-law own’s a Remington 700. Both are very accurate right out of the box and the back-blast sound of the BOSS outweighs it’s benefits, in my opinion. Depends on the age and size of your son, but my nephew, who is just beginning hunting,  just got a Remington in .260. Really nice gun and caliber. Already tapped for scope. Also check out the finishes. Gloss, mat, synthetic, etc. Each is a little different. The Brownings have a magizine for shells on their A-bolts which I like, and also only a short 60 degree bolt throw. Good luck shopping, Ed Kautz Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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> Either would be fine guns for a gift, and if the intent of the rifle is for > hunting, I would not get the BOSS due to excessive noise. I own a Browing > A-bolt and my brother-in-law own’s a Remington 700. Both are very accurate > right out of the box and the back-blast sound of the BOSS outweighs it’s > benefits, in my opinion. Depends on the age and size of your son, but my > nephew, who is just beginning hunting,  just got a Remington in .260. Really > nice gun and caliber. Already tapped for scope. Also check out the finishes. > Gloss, mat, synthetic, etc. Each is a little different. The Brownings have a > magizine for shells on their A-bolts which I like, and also only a short 60 > degree bolt throw.

Boy, do I have good news for you!  The BOSS system now comes with two attachments included.  One is also a muzzle brake ( the one you seem to have) and it is noisy.  The other is the "CR" attachment (CR= conventional recoil) and it is not ported and thus adds no noise over a gun without the BOSS.  Browning will sell the CR attachment to you for small cost.  Use it to replace what you have and get the benefits of adjustments without any added noise. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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Thanks for the info! I’ll look into the new BOSS modifications… Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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> My son wants a 270 rifle for Christmas-I am planning to get a bolt > action- I have looked at a Remington and a Browning,and  am going to > another store Tues.that has a Sig- >   Can anybody give me some advice >  Thanks, >  M

Its a little late, but I would look at a Ruger All Weather (synthetic stock, stainless barrel).  Should be able to pick one up for $401-$429. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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.270? Piece of cake! I picked up a BLR in .358 Winchester for my 12 year old for Christmas. He’s been lusting after his dad’s .358 the last 2 years (gotta protect "old faithful") and the .243 M77 Ruger he’s been using seems a bit light for the heavy woods we hunt in the GW National Forest in western Virginia. He’s stout enough to handle the perceived recoil, and kids as a rule are flexible enough to move with the recoil rather than resist it and absorb more of it. Got that out of Gouch Thomas’s Gun book. Happy Holidays! Jack – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Either would be fine guns for a gift, and if the intent of the rifle is for > hunting, I would not get the BOSS due to excessive noise. I own a Browing > A-bolt and my brother-in-law own’s a Remington 700. Both are very accurate > right out of the box and the back-blast sound of the BOSS outweighs it’s > benefits, in my opinion. Depends on the age and size of your son, but my > nephew, who is just beginning hunting,  just got a Remington in .260. Really > nice gun and caliber. Already tapped for scope. Also check out the finishes. > Gloss, mat, synthetic, etc. Each is a little different. The Brownings have a > magizine for shells on their A-bolts which I like, and also only a short 60 > degree bolt throw. > Boy, do I have good news for you!  The BOSS system now comes with two > attachments included.  One is also a muzzle brake ( the one you seem to have) > and it is noisy.  The other is the "CR" attachment (CR= conventional recoil) and > it is not ported and thus adds no noise over a gun without the BOSS. Browning > will sell the CR attachment to you for small cost.  Use it to replace what you > have and get the benefits of adjustments without any added noise. > Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: >         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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> Both fine guns, but if money is a concern, the Savage is a fine bolt action > hunting weapon too and for considerably less money on average.  This would be > especially true if he is so young  that he will physically outgrow the gun and > need a different stock etc as he reaches full height in a few years.  If money > is not a real concern, I would get the Browning with the BOSS system to > control recoil now, and for fine tuning with the CR attachment as he gets > older.  Bolt action is certainly the best way to teach good hunting to a > kid…make the first shot the only shot and all.

I agree.. I own a Browning 30-06 with Boss and it kicks equal to my winchester 30-30..  At least it feels the same.. I really do think that BOSS really helps recoil and accuracy for sure!!  Also the browning has got a nicer pad on the end of the stock, so that may help a little.  The 30-06 should kick more than the 30-30, since its a more powerful gun, but it doesn’t seem to.  And if it does, it does a nice job of controlling recoil and reducing vibrations that reduce accuracy..  I love it, and I highly recommend Browning rifles and guns in general.  I have fired other 30-06 rifles that kick more, less enjoyable to shoot, and are less accurate out of the box.. Dan Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at:         http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/

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