.22 Short CB too much for Dogs?
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Get a paint ball gun and buy the balls that are full of clear water. These sting but are non-leathal. The clear water wont even leave a mark on the dog!! Business makes progress, Fortune passes everywhere. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hi everyone, >I live out in the country and out in the country, lots of peoples dogs roam >free. I don’t have a problem with that. I do however ocassionally have a >problem with a dog coming into the yard and tipping over garbage cans, >strowing garbage, etc. What I’ve done for years with good results is to >sneak out the back and shoot them with my crossman .22 air rifle. I don’t >let them see me so that they associate my garbage cans with a sting, not me. >This action usually results in a yelp and the dog running away and not >returning. On ocassion, I have to sting the same dog twice, but usually >never more than that. Here’s my question. The air rifle that I’ve had >since I was a kid is about worn out and leaks out most of the air before I >can get a shot off. That’s all that I use the air rifle for so I don’t care >to spend the money to replace it. I do, however have several .22LR’s and a >box of Remington .22 short CB caps. Does anyone know just how fast these >are going. They sound like an air rifle. What I want is a sting and not to >draw blood. The dogs are usually big shaggy dogs like equivilent in size >and coat to a German Shepard. Any help would be appreciated.
Don’t use the .22 short CB’s they can cause wounds although where I grew up if your dogs roamed on to property and caused a problem you expected them to get shot dead. I would never shot an animal with any thing I wouldn’t shot myself with unless I planned to kill it. I would suggest you get a paint ball gun and use that with the water proof paint used by foresters for marking trees. It’ll sting the dog real good and send back to the owner a message the dog was some where it shouldn’t be. Not my provider’s views. John Alex Stovall XVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVO "….Long live Freedom and damn the ideologies," Said the gamey old back-maned wild boar Tusking the turf on Mal Paso Mountain. XVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVOXVO Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I would also caution that even a pellet gun can kill a dog, easily. Yours being so worn out is probably why it has been a good non-lethal deterrent. I use a Benjamin-Sheridan Blue Streak to control rats on my property, and even on 2 pumps it will go right through a big rat at close range, which in the winter when they’ve been feasting on duck food is 3 inches of flesh or so. I usually pump it more times and shoot from farther, but I’ve abused the poor little rat bastard’s carcasses once or twice to see what the pellets were actually doing at lower powers. Anyway, a .22 rifle would be WAY too much power to just sting them and might just kill them on the spot, even with the low-power bullets. I’d recommend a cheap kids BB gun. -jeff Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Quick question do you use .22 Short CB in a .22 LR firearm? Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Yes and no Some 22 LR firearms will fed the shorts but many will not. They do make a Long CB that has the same ballistics’ as the shorts, these will feed from any 22 LR fire arm , but you will have to move the bolt manually in the semi- automatics,, but they work and feed fine. They are a blast to use in your 22 auto pistols,, a bit slowing on repeat fire, due to having to pull the slide back after each one, but they are much quieter than the standard long rifles,, but they are a bit nosier than firing from a rifle. In my 10 inch Ruger,, the deliver the same velocity as when firing from a rifle Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> I used to kill starlings and squirrels with these at close range. I > wouldn’t risk shooting them at a dog unless you don’t care about hurting > the dog. Were I you, I’d go to the nearest WallyWorld and purchase a new > pellet gun. Much cheaper than law suits and bad relations with
neighbors! …unless he’s willing to do the "three S" routine. But if that’s the case, I’ld use something *bigger* than a .22… — + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Chris Barnes AOL IM: cnbarnes Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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..22cb’s are more than I would shoot at a dog. They will probably cause damage, not just sting. If your garbage cans are metal set them on some glass jars and hook an electric fence controller to them. If they are plastic run the bare electric wire around the sides and over the top of the cans so the dog is sure to make contact. Fencers designed for gardens run pretty cheap and they work 24 hours and 7 days a week. — Doug Williams Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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<<Hi everyone, I live out in the country and out in the country, lots of peoples dogs roam free. I don’t have a problem with that. I do however ocassionally have a problem with a dog coming into the yard and tipping over garbage cans, strowing garbage, etc. What I’ve done for years with good results is to sneak out the back and shoot them with my crossman .22 air rifle. I don’t let them see me so that they associate my garbage cans with a sting, not me. This action usually results in a yelp and the dog running away and not returning. On ocassion, I have to sting the same dog twice, but usually never more than that. Here’s my question. The air rifle that I’ve had since I was a kid is about worn out and leaks out most of the air before I can get a shot off. That’s all that I use the air rifle for so I don’t care to spend the money to replace it. I do, however have several .22LR’s and a box of Remington .22 short CB caps. Does anyone know just how fast these are going. They sound like an air rifle. What I want is a sting and not to draw blood. The dogs are usually big shaggy dogs like equivilent in size and coat to a German Shepard. Any help would be appreciated. P.S. Anyone not agree with my method of dealing with this problem please share your thoughts or contact me to schedule an appointment for trash detail. -Adrian Adrian, when I was in my mid teens, a dog kept trashing our garbage, eating cat food etc. I pulled out the pellet rifle to teach it a lesson. The rifle was a Sheridan Silver Streak and even though I only pumped it three times, the resulting shot sent the dog tumbling. He got up and ran away and was gone for several days. A few days later I hear that the dog was found dead in its yard. I never made myself availble for scrutiny but I can only assume that the pellet must have penetrated the skin and the dog either bled to death (unlikely), it hit something vital that eventually killed it, it was just a coincidence or that the dog died of lead poisoning. Lesson learned: guns are guns and don’t shoot at anything you don’t want to kill. I also live in the country and am resorting to the rubbermaid cans that uses the handles as a lock for the lid. I am hoping that resolves the problem. Mike Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hi everyone, >I live out in the country and out in the country, lots of peoples dogs roam >free. I don’t have a problem with that. I do however ocassionally have a >problem with a dog coming into the yard and tipping over garbage cans, >strowing garbage, etc. What I’ve done for years with good results is to >sneak out the back and shoot them with my crossman .22 air rifle. I don’t >let them see me so that they associate my garbage cans with a sting, not me. >This action usually results in a yelp and the dog running away and not >returning. On ocassion, I have to sting the same dog twice, but usually >never more than that. Here’s my question. The air rifle that I’ve had >since I was a kid is about worn out and leaks out most of the air before I >can get a shot off. That’s all that I use the air rifle for so I don’t care >to spend the money to replace it. I do, however have several .22LR’s and a >box of Remington .22 short CB caps. Does anyone know just how fast these >are going. They sound like an air rifle. What I want is a sting and not to >draw blood. The dogs are usually big shaggy dogs like equivilent in size >and coat to a German Shepard. Any help would be appreciated.
Adrian — The idea of using the air rifle is more than likely the best as the 22 cb caps are what I use to kill rabbits in my garden. They are very effective for that purpose out to 75-100 feet. Beyond that I dont know. I do know the dog owners will not be happy when their dog comes home with a 22 bullet hole in them. I think I would part with the bucks to get another (pump) air rifle rather than put up with an angery pet owner.Hope this info helps. John M. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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CB will penetrate into the animal. 22 shot shells would be a much better choice, they use small shot and will not penetrate at any distance. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hi everyone, >I live out in the country and out in the country, lots of peoples dogs roam >free. I don’t have a problem with that. I do however ocassionally have a >problem with a dog coming into the yard and tipping over garbage cans, >strowing garbage, etc. What I’ve done for years with good results is to >sneak out the back and shoot them with my crossman .22 air rifle. I don’t >let them see me so that they associate my garbage cans with a sting, not me. >This action usually results in a yelp and the dog running away and not >returning. On ocassion, I have to sting the same dog twice, but usually >never more than that. Here’s my question. The air rifle that I’ve had >since I was a kid is about worn out and leaks out most of the air before I >can get a shot off. That’s all that I use the air rifle for so I don’t care >to spend the money to replace it. I do, however have several .22LR’s and a >box of Remington .22 short CB caps. Does anyone know just how fast these >are going. They sound like an air rifle. What I want is a sting and not to >draw blood. The dogs are usually big shaggy dogs like equivilent in size >and coat to a German Shepard. Any help would be appreciated. >P.S. Anyone not agree with my method of dealing with this problem please >share your thoughts or contact me to schedule an appointment for trash >detail. >-Adrian
A small investment in cayenne (sp?) pepper will usually do the trick. You should be able to buy a large container of this pepper in powdered form from a restaurant supplier, wholesaler, or grocery warehouse for a few bucks. Lightly sprinkle the powder in and around the trash cans. Effective for dogs and racoons. Beats the hell out of possibly injuring the dogs, and you don’t have to worry about the neighbors complaining. Good Luck. — The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson. Straight Shootin Y’all. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I believe you can get a new Crosman pumpmaster in .177 for about $30. With BBs and three pumps it should be about right. With 5 pumps, the slow learners will have something to remember you by, without risk of lead poisoning. This is the way to go. -Jeremy Z Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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> > P.S. Anyone not agree with my method of dealing with this problem please > share your thoughts or contact me to schedule an appointment for trash > detail. > -Adrian > I used to kill starlings and squirrels with these at close range. I > wouldn’t risk shooting them at a dog unless you don’t care about hurting > the dog. Were I you, I’d go to the nearest WallyWorld and purchase a new > pellet gun. Much cheaper than law suits and bad relations with neighbors!
If by pellet gun, you mean a bb or similar, I believe there is an even better solution – a soft air gun. Fires a hard plastic pellet with enough force to scare the tripe out of a dog, but will not break the skin. It is also quieter than an air rifle or pistol Now I am not saying I agree or disagree with shooting a dog for the purposes the original poster outlined, but if hes going to, this is the least likely to have him end up in court. Cheers, Brenton Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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A CB is a 29 grain bullet at about 650 fps. It is my primary squirrel cartridge, will blow right through them at under 25 yds range. Quite is why I use them, they rarely spook the squirrels A CB can and will kill a dog if you hit him anywhere except the hip, and then it can cripple him, .a gut shot is a three day death unless surgery is done If you need to use a 22 for the garbage raiders, use the 22 rat shot, and again keep the shot to the rear of the dog, as eyes can be taken out with the number 12 shot in them, but they will do no permanent damage to other parts of the body if the range is over 7 feet that is. The thing about rat shot in a 22 though,, it spreads very quickly out of a rifled barrel,, not much good past 10 yds, it is absolutely the ticket in a smooth bore 22 rifle for garbage raiders out to 25 yds Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Adrian, I would not shoot the dogs with CB caps, they could definately penatrate the skin, and that could lead to the dogs death. Several years ago I had a problem with really large racoons. I bought some of those Rubbermaid lock top barrels and then I took a bungee cord and wrapped it through the locks so it could not be opened. The next morning it was kind of funny My barrrels were rolled all over the yard. The racoons probably got on top and rolled them to try to roll off the cover, didn’t work. They have never been back, and I don’t need to strap the top locks anymore. These rubbermaid lock top barrels are one of the best investments that I ever made. They are super durable and keep the critters out. As far as your Crosman air rifle, I would be very careful shooting them with that if you don’t want to kill them. As you see in one of these posts, someone killed a dog with a similar rifle with only three pumps. But if you like your .22 pump air rifle. you can have it rebuilt by Crosman. I have a crossman .22 air rifle that I recieved as a gift in 1970. I had it rebuilt a few years back because it leaked and it still works well today. visit them at: www.crosman.com Try those rubbermaids and bungees and sleep tight. Bill Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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I agree with the other posters, go with the pellet rifle. You may be able to get new seals for your pellet gun and give it new life, or get a new pellet rifle. The CBs would seriously injure or kill the dog. If you know the owners of the dogs, call them up and have them clean up after their dogs, and maybe they’ll start making sure their dogs stay under control. — Good fishing, Matt Moore Visit Matt’s Severum World at: http://www.virtualseeds.com/matt.html Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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Thanks for the info, group. The general consensus seems to be that .22 Short CB’s are too much for dogs. -Adrian Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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>CB will penetrate into the animal. 22 shot shells would be a much better >choice, they use small shot and will not penetrate at any distance.
.22 shot shells WILL penetrate. I used to use them for gophers that had set up housekeeping in my crawl space. From a pistol, they were deadly at 25-40 feet. — The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson. Straight Shootin Y’all. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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My patience with stray dogs is completely gone, hence this recommendation: 12 gauge 3" mags loaded with #4 buck. Aim for the head. Deposit carcass in fore-mentioned trash cans. Problem solved. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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The general consensus on the use of CB’s is that it will harm the dog and I agree completely. Use of a pellet gun is also dangerous, as I had my dog shot by an unfriendly neighbor (the dog was in my fenced back yard) and the pellet lodged under the skin between shoulder and rib cage. If you have something that will shoot 38 spl or 44 spl, consider the Speer plastic target bullets. They are an inexpensive plastic two part case and bullet that is powered by a primer. Because of the large diameter, opposed to a bb or pellet, they don’t run the risk of penetrating. The range is limited, but might be enough for what you need. The Speer plastic bullets are also available for the 45 acp, but you have to modify a brass case to use them. There have also been other rubber "practice" bullets on the market that use a standard brass case. Both of these may be more effort than you are interested in. The speer in 38 & 44 are inexpensive and easy to use (buy a box of bullets, cases, and primers, and you are ready to go). John
<<Hi everyone, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I live out in the country and out in the country, lots of peoples dogs roam >free. I don’t have a problem with that. I do however ocassionally have a >problem with a dog coming into the yard and tipping over garbage cans, >strowing garbage, etc. What I’ve done for years with good results is to >sneak out the back and shoot them with my crossman .22 air rifle. I don’t >let them see me so that they associate my garbage cans with a sting, not me. >This action usually results in a yelp and the dog running away and not >returning. On ocassion, I have to sting the same dog twice, but usually >never more than that. Here’s my question. The air rifle that I’ve had >since I was a kid is about worn out and leaks out most of the air before I >can get a shot off. That’s all that I use the air rifle for so I don’t care >to spend the money to replace it. I do, however have several .22LR’s and a >box of Remington .22 short CB caps. Does anyone know just how fast these >are going. They sound like an air rifle. What I want is a sting and not to >draw blood. The dogs are usually big shaggy dogs like equivilent in size >and coat to a German Shepard. Any help would be appreciated. >P.S. Anyone not agree with my method of dealing with this problem please >share your thoughts or contact me to schedule an appointment for trash >detail. >-Adrian
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Hi everyone, I live out in the country and out in the country, lots of peoples dogs roam free. I don’t have a problem with that. I do however ocassionally have a problem with a dog coming into the yard and tipping over garbage cans, strowing garbage, etc. What I’ve done for years with good results is to sneak out the back and shoot them with my crossman .22 air rifle. I don’t let them see me so that they associate my garbage cans with a sting, not me. This action usually results in a yelp and the dog running away and not returning. On ocassion, I have to sting the same dog twice, but usually never more than that. Here’s my question. The air rifle that I’ve had since I was a kid is about worn out and leaks out most of the air before I can get a shot off. That’s all that I use the air rifle for so I don’t care to spend the money to replace it. I do, however have several .22LR’s and a box of Remington .22 short CB caps. Does anyone know just how fast these are going. They sound like an air rifle. What I want is a sting and not to draw blood. The dogs are usually big shaggy dogs like equivilent in size and coat to a German Shepard. Any help would be appreciated. P.S. Anyone not agree with my method of dealing with this problem please share your thoughts or contact me to schedule an appointment for trash detail. -Adrian Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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A .22 will draw blood, or worse, depending where you hit them. If you put a garbage bag inside the can, try putting a couple tablespoons of ammonia in the bag, then twisting it closed. When a dog, or other critter, gets a whiff of the ammonia, they usually go elsewheres fast. samg Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi everyone, > I live out in the country and out in the country, lots of peoples dogs roam > free. I don’t have a problem with that. I do however ocassionally have a > problem with a dog coming into the yard and tipping over garbage cans, > strowing garbage, etc. What I’ve done for years with good results is to > sneak out the back and shoot them with my crossman .22 air rifle. I don’t > let them see me so that they associate my garbage cans with a sting, not me. > This action usually results in a yelp and the dog running away and not > returning. On ocassion, I have to sting the same dog twice, but usually > never more than that. Here’s my question. The air rifle that I’ve had > since I was a kid is about worn out and leaks out most of the air before I > can get a shot off. That’s all that I use the air rifle for so I don’t care > to spend the money to replace it. I do, however have several .22LR’s and a > box of Remington .22 short CB caps. Does anyone know just how fast these > are going. They sound like an air rifle. What I want is a sting and not to > draw blood. The dogs are usually big shaggy dogs like equivilent in size > and coat to a German Shepard. Any help would be appreciated. > P.S. Anyone not agree with my method of dealing with this problem please > share your thoughts or contact me to schedule an appointment for trash > detail. > -Adrian
I used to kill starlings and squirrels with these at close range. I wouldn’t risk shooting them at a dog unless you don’t care about hurting the dog. Were I you, I’d go to the nearest WallyWorld and purchase a new pellet gun. Much cheaper than law suits and bad relations with neighbors! Certified Wildlife Biologist – - – - Illegitimi Non Carborundum Est – - – - THOSE who trade essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Bad officials are the ones elected by good citizens who do not vote. George Jean Nathan Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi everyone, > I live out in the country and out in the country, lots of peoples dogs roam > free. I don’t have a problem with that. I do however ocassionally have a > problem with a dog coming into the yard and tipping over garbage cans, > strowing garbage, etc. What I’ve done for years with good results is to > sneak out the back and shoot them with my crossman .22 air rifle. I don’t > let them see me so that they associate my garbage cans with a sting, not me. > This action usually results in a yelp and the dog running away and not > returning. On ocassion, I have to sting the same dog twice, but usually > never more than that. Here’s my question. The air rifle that I’ve had > since I was a kid is about worn out and leaks out most of the air before I > can get a shot off. That’s all that I use the air rifle for so I don’t care > to spend the money to replace it. I do, however have several .22LR’s and a > box of Remington .22 short CB caps. Does anyone know just how fast these > are going. They sound like an air rifle. What I want is a sting and not to > draw blood. The dogs are usually big shaggy dogs like equivilent in size > and coat to a German Shepard. Any help would be appreciated. > P.S. Anyone not agree with my method of dealing with this problem please > share your thoughts or contact me to schedule an appointment for trash > detail. > -Adrian
Too much to shoot safely at a dog you really don’t want to hurt. I think a gut shot with a 22CB will potentially kill a dog if it doesn’t get prompt doctor’s care. I have seen a CB take a squirrel’s head half off. Visit the rec.hunting and rec.hunting.dogs FAQ Home Page at: http://sportsmansweb.com/hunting/
